Re:「聖者」个「者chiá」是讀輕聲亦是讀變調?
Re:「聖者」个「者chiá」是讀輕聲亦是讀變調?
From: bingh tang
Date: 2010-02-17 14:32:21
A Rule of Thumb
1] 讀漢文个時陣,「者」通常是讀輕聲, when it is for a noun。 譬如 「政者,正也(論語)」
2] On the othetr hand, as in "kin7-chu--chia" e "chia" si within a phrase, it doesnot need to 讀輕聲.
3] While sometimes as a derivational suffix, which is NOT ALWAYS CAPABLE to help in distinguishing between a NOUN AND A PHRASE, then
3. Sometimes a derivational suffix is unable to clearly distinguisg between a noun or a phrase to 讀輕聲 OR NOT, THEN IT IS DEPENDED.
fOR EXAMPLE, 「近朱者赤, 近墨者黑. Kin7-chu--chia0 chhek, kin7-bek8--chia0 hek.」, not needed 讀輕聲 , you may 讀變調
馬可福音1:24 巴克禮譯本「我知汝是chī-chuī, 就是上帝个聖个(sèng-ê)」~ again, not a noun
高陳台灣白話聖經譯本「我知影汝是啥物儂 -- 汝是上帝个聖者(sèng-chiá)!」 ~ a noun
現代台語新約聖經譯本「我知汝是啥物儂;汝是上帝个聖者(sèng-chiá)。」~ same, a noun
Seng-Chia Sat-Hu Sun-Tai 聖者撒夫孫大 Sadhu Sundar Singh著,高十三編著 嘉義:台灣宣道社 1962 ~ same, it is a noun 年 「聖者」个「者chiá」是讀輕聲 as it is a noun
Tried to answewred all once, to-sia.and peng-an.
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Re: Re: [tgb] Re:「聖者」个「者chiá」是讀輕聲亦是讀變調?
From: Cheng heong Teo
Date: 2010-02-17 18:05:03
委辦譯本「我知爾為誰,乃上帝之聖者」我想「者」佇遮應該讀本調。
2010/2/17 bingh tang
A Rule of Thumb
1] 讀漢文个時陣,「者」通常是讀輕聲, when it is for a noun。 譬如 「政者,正也(論語)」
2] On the othetr hand, as in "kin7-chu--chia" e "chia" si within a phrase, it doesnot need to 讀輕聲.
3] While sometimes as a derivational suffix, which is NOT ALWAYS CAPABLE to help in distinguishing between a NOUN AND A PHRASE, then
3. Sometimes a derivational suffix is unable to clearly distinguisg between a noun or a phrase to 讀輕聲 OR NOT, THEN IT IS DEPENDED.
fOR EXAMPLE, 「近朱者赤, 近墨者黑. Kin7-chu--chia0 chhek, kin7-bek8--chia0 hek.」, not needed 讀輕聲 , you may 讀變調
馬可福音1:24 巴克禮譯本「我知汝是chī-chuī, 就是上帝个聖个(sèng-ê)」~ again, not a noun
高陳台灣白話聖經譯本「我知影汝是啥物儂 -- 汝是上帝个聖者(sèng-chiá)!」 ~ a noun
現代台語新約聖經譯本「我知汝是啥物儂;汝是上帝个聖者(sèng-chiá)。」~ same, a noun
Seng-Chia Sat-Hu Sun-Tai 聖者撒夫孫大 Sadhu Sundar Singh著,高十三編著 嘉義:台灣宣道社 1962 ~ same, it is a noun 年 「聖者」个「者chiá」是讀輕聲 as it is a noun
Tried to answewred all once, to-sia.and peng-an.
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Re: Re: 「聖者」个「者chiá」是讀輕聲亦是讀變調?
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Date: 2010-02-18 04:45:45
歹勢, 我拍字拍毋著, 我个問題應該是:「聖者」个「者chiá」是讀輕聲亦是讀『本』調?