----- Original Message ----- From: levin To: Ming Chen Cc: ; ; Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 4:26 PM Subject: Re: TLPA kap POJ

> taigu levin 
>
> taigu levin 
> Benghiong SiansiN kah kok-ui bang-lou e peng-iu,
>
> Kan-tan kong kui-tiam:
>
> 1) Goa kio-si goa koh-jin chin u "kok-ka" koan-liam e, ma chiok siuN beh
> "kian-kok" e.
> M-koh, che kah lan chim-ma leh tho-lun e bun-te bo koan-he.
>
> 2) Tada San na-chhin-chhiuN m-bat hoan-tui chek-ti se-lek kai-jip.
> Tian-to-hoan, i chhin-chhiuN si chu-tiuN ai in-jip cheng-ti lek-liong.
> Goa-e khoaN-hoat, goa siuN-kong i-keng kong-koe ah, kho-leng kong-liau iau
bo
> chheng-chho.
> Goa seng-jin, chu-chiong hian-tai kok-ka ka "kau-iok" chit-e pou-mng
siu-khi
> cho kok-ka ke-khi e chit-pou-hun, beh kio cheng-ti se-lek mai chhap-chhiu
si
> bo kho-leng e. M-koh, goa koh-khah chu-tiong bin-kan e lek-liong, ma tui
> cheng-ti se-lek pho-chhi khah kin-sin e thai-tou. Ki-sit, cheng-ti un-chok
e
> rudeness goa chiok kiaN e.
> Sou-i, goa si hi-bang e-tang hou cheng-ti se-lek (pau-koa cheng-hu) khia
ti
> khah pi-tong e te-ui.
>
> 3) Goa ma hoan-tui eng TLPA cho Tai-oan-oe e BUN-JI. Chai goa sou-chai, ma
> bo-lang chu-tiuN eng TLPA cho jin-ho gi-gian e bun-ji.
>
> 4) Goa ma jin-ui su-sia, ki-lok lan-e gi-gian e bun-ji ai thong-it. M-koh
chai
> chit-e thong-it e koe-teng tiong, lan iau u chin che khang-khoe ai cho,
chin
> che bun-te ai chhu-li.
>
> 5) Bun-ji e thong-it peng m-si beh siau-biat oe-gi (speech) e
cheng-chha --
> goa siuN, che ma bo kho-leng. Goa hi-bang lan m-thang kong, ho, taN lan
bun-ji
> ai thong-it khi-lai, sou-i tak-ke long ai kong "piau-chun-im". Goa siuN,
> bun-ji e5 thong-it, tai-seng si pheng-sia goan-chek e5 che-teng.
Chun-chiau
> chia-e goan-chek, kok-chiong khiuN-khau long e chin chu-jian hoan-eng ti
> bun-ji bin-teng. Ki-sit, goa i-tit leh "bin-bang" e, to-si lan na ho-ho-a
> li-iong kok-chiong khiuN-khau e chha-piat, bo-na e-tang chun-tiong
> tak-khiuN-khau, ma e-tang hou bun-ji koh-khah thong-it, ma e-sai kiam-chio
> "different words with the same spelling" e cheng-heng, cheng-ka lan
pian-sek
> (辨è­) bun-ji e hong-pian.
>
> 6) Goa m-bat khi-koe E-mng. M-koh ui su-bin (æ¸é¢) e chu-liau khoaN,
> hian-chhu-si lan sou-eng e POJ oan-choan hah E-mng-oe e siaN-un kiat-kou
> (è²é»çµæ§).?Tian-to tui Tai-oan-oe e gi-gian hian-sit na2-chhiuN bo
hoan-eng
> liau chiah ho. Sou-i goa chit-khai-si to kian-gi POJ ai chu-tiong Tai-oan
e
> kok-chiong khiuN-khau kah kok-chiong siaN-tiau e chha-piat a-si bun-te.
> Lan na hoe-hok su-eng "o-Umlaut" kah "u-Umlaut", e7 u sim-mih kiat-ko leh?
Lan
> na ti bun-ji e teng-koan hoan-eng-chhut kok-chiong khin-siaN e cheng-chha,
ma
> piau-chhut complex tones (è¤åé³ç¯å¨è²èª¿ä¸ççµæ) kah chhit-tiau i-goa e
> 中é調 (na-chun he si chun-chai e hian-sit), e7 u sim-mih kiat-ko leh?
> Goa ioh, an-ne cho kho-leng e kiam-chio "different words with the same
> spelling" e cheng-heng, hou POJ e bun-ji kong-leng koh-khah kiong.
> (Na7 chhin-chhiuN Tai-lam-khiuN e "o", ti phonemic e chan-chhu kah ki-thaN
> khiuN-khau e "o" si kang-khoan e, chai goa siuN, to bo su-iau ti BUN-JI
> teng-koan u chha-piat louh -- ti IM-PIAU teng-koan ai u chha-piat bou, che
goa
> bo i-kian.)
>
> 7) Jin-ho im-piau keng-koe kai-cho, bo-tiaN long e-sai chiaN-cho
chit-chiong
> bun-ji. Chhin-chhiuN TLPA si im-piau, m-si bun-ji, goa ma hoan-tui theh i
lai
> cho lan-e bun-ji. M-koh, na ka kai-cho7 chit-e7, chhin-chhiuN ka sou-ji
> tan-hiN-sak, eng pat-khoan pan-hoat lai piau siaN-tiau, bo-tiaN ma e-tang
> chiaN-cho u chit-e-khoan e bun-ji.
>
> 8) POJ si im-piau a-si bun-ji? Na-chhiuN u-lang kong nng-hang long si.
M-chai
> cha-ki hia-e soan-kau-su hoat-tian POJ e si5, si7 ka tong-choe im-piau
a-si
> bun-ji -- che ai chheng-kau khah u gian-kiu e chian-poe.
> M-koh, na7-chun POJ si im-piau, lan ma tong-jian e-tang ka tong-cho bun-ji
lai
> su-eng, a-si ka hoat-tian cho bun-ji.
> (Goa siuN, chit-tho pheng-im bun-ji si e-tang cho kah bo su-iau koh
leng-goa
> su-eng im-piau e.)
>
> 9) Pheng-im bun-ji m-na ai kho-lu gi-gian e siaN-un kiat-kou, ma ai koh
> chhu-li chiong-chiong e bun-te, chhin-chhiuN:
> POJ, lan ai an-choaN su-eng hyphen? sim-mih si-chun syllable ai
liam-cho-hoe
> sia, sim-mih si-chun ai hun-khui sia?
> Goa ioh, ti se-hong pheng-im bun-ji e eng-hiong chi-ha, u-e sou-chai lan u
> chin chu-jian e hoan-eng. Goa ioh, u-e sou-chai lan e-tang che-teng-chhut
> goan-chek (ti chia, lan kho-leng to ai kho-lu chit-toa-tui morphology kah
> syntax e bun-te), u-e sou-chai kho-leng to ai ti sip-koan tiong lai
kian-lip
> (to-si kong bo hoat-tou ti grammar lai-te seng chhoe-chhut sim-mih
goan-chek).
>
> U-e khin-siaN kho-leng m-bian koh tiat-piat siat-ke sim-mih hu-ho lai
piau-si,
> kho-leng ui pheng-sia e kui-chek to e-tang cheng-khak liam--chut-lai.
(In-ui
> chia-e pheng-sia kui-chek hoan-eng-chhut bou-chiong syntax; kun-ku xit-e
> syntax, lan to chai-iaN toh-chit-e im-chat ai thak khin-siaN.)
> Iau-koh u punctuation e bun-te: Thoan-thong-siong, POJ si eng hyphen lai
> hun-piat syllables (sui-jian u-e sou-chai bian eng hyphen, syllables e
> kai-soaN ma chin chheng-chho); u-e bun-ji he-thong bo an-ne su-eng hyphen,
> kan-na ti kai-soaN bo chheng-chho e sou-chai eng apostraphe. Tui an-ne
su-eng
> apostraphe e he-thong lai kong, si-m-si beh koh oh Eng-bun eng " " kah '?'
> lai cho quotation marks leh? Bo-tiaN-tioh e-tang chham-kho Tek-bun,
Hoat-bun
> teng-teng e cho-hoat.
> ChhiuN chia-e bun-te, m-chai long u it-teng e chhu-li boe?
>
> 10) Chiok che lang long chu-tiuN ai han-teng iong 26-e ji-bo lai cho
bun-ji.
> Lan na khoaN se-hong li-iong Latin alphabet lai chhong-cho, hoat-tian e
> bun-ji, to chai-iaN bo su-iau an-ne han-che ka-ti. POJ e " o' " ma bo ti
26-e
> ji-bo lai-te. Cha-ki Douglas in leh eng e "o-Umlaut", "u-Umlaut" ma
> kang-khoan.
> TiuN Ju-hong kau-siuN tong-chhoe-si siat-ke e hit-tho su-sia he-thong, ka
> ka-ti han-che ti 26-e ji-bo lai-te, si ui-tioh phah-ji, su-jip hong-pian.
> Na7-chun lan beh su-eng 26-ji-bo i-goa e ji-bo, ma beh po-liu eng
diacritcs
> piau-sia siaN-tiau e cho-hoat, lan tioh ai chhu-li chit-e phah-ji, su-jip
e
> bun-te. M-si kan-na ti word file ai chhu-li, ti jin-ho files long ai
e-tang
> chhu-li.
> (Na7-chun Tek-bun, Hoat-bun, Pak-au e bun-ji, a-si Tang-au e koah-a
bun-ji, in
> e-tang chhu-li, lan bo li-iu be-tang chhu-li. Bun-te si ti bun-ji e
che-teng
> siong, lan si-m-si iau u bun-te iau-boe chhu-li leh.)
>
> 11) Goa i-tit kam-kak POJ ai koh kai-jin, sou-kho-lu e bun-te tai-khai
to-si
> i-siong sou-kong e.
> Che, lan bin-kan e-tang cho-hoe lai tho-lun, hak-sut tan-ui ma e-tang lai
> tho-lun. Cheng-hu bo-tiaN ma e-tang pan-ian chit-e kak-sek lai thui-sak
chia-e
> bun-te e gian-kiu, tho-lun, kah kai-koat. (Chit-chun, goa si hi-bang
cheng-hu
> si pan-ian chit-e hiap-chou e kak-seki, chhut-chiN, chhut-lat, tau khou
lang
> cho-hoe gian-kiu. Tan2 gian-kiu, tho-lun kah u chit-e kiat-ko, kiong-sek
chiah
> koh kong. M-ho kioh cheng-hu chit-khai-si to beh lai kui-teng siaN-hoe.)
> Tong-jian, Benghiong Sian-siN a-si tak-ke jin-ui chia long m-si bun-te,
long
> bo su-iau kai-koat, goa to bo oe thang kong ah.
>
> 12) Koh hoan-tng-thau lai kong "kian-kok" e tai-chi.
> Chit-khai-si, goa kong che kah lan chim-ma tho-lun e bun-te bo koan-he.
> Khak-sit si bo koan-he.
> Be-tang kong eng kang-chit-e gi-gian a-si bun-ji e lang to ai
kang-chit-kok.
> Ma be-tang kong eng bo kang-khoan gi-gian a-si bun-ji e lang to be-tang
> kang-kok.
> M-koh, chhin-chhiuN bat ka Benghiong Sian-siN kong-koe e: goa hoan-tui eng
> Han-ji sia Tai-oan-oe, ti-liau kam-kak pheng-im bun-ji khah sek-tong
i-goa,
> goa seng-jin goa iau u ki-thaN e kho-lu. Goa ma kang-khoan kip beh
khoaN-tioh
> Tai-oan bun-hoa chiaN-kang top-lip khi-lai.
>
> (Sin-soa kong chit-tiam: Goa na kong goa-e bo-gi kio-cho "Tai-oan-oe",
u-lang
> e khong-gi, kong Tai-oan iau u pat-chiong gi-gian. Sou-i u-lang to kai
kong
> che si "Hoh-lo-oe". "Hoh-lo" chit-e suè© si siaN i-su, tui tang-si kai-si
> u-lang eng e, goa long m chai-iaN, ma si toa-han chiah ti chheh lai-te
> thak-tioh chit-e kong-hoat. Goa kan-na chai-iaN se-han gun lau-bu to ka
goa
> kong, lan si Tai-oan-lang, lan kong e oe si "Tai-oan-oe". Te Khai-su
the-gi
> lan ka ka-ti kio-choe "Lan-lang", iong-sim sit-chai chiaN ho. Goa iau-koh
m
> chai-iaN beh chiap-siu Khai-su hiaN e chu-tiuN bouh. M-koh, bo-lun goa-e
bo-gi
> kio-cho siaN, lan Tai-oan si chit-e to-bin-chok, to-gi-gan e kok-ka.
Na7-chun
> lan iau m-si chit-e kok-ka, lan to ai phah-piaN hou i chiaN-cho chit-e
kok-ka.
> Leng-goa chit-e hian-sit si: chioh-iong Khai-su hiaN e kong-hoat,
"Lan-lang e
> oe" m-si Tai-oan-lang leh kong nia.)
>
> Goa ma ng-bang Kheh-oe e-tang ka-kiong hok-heng kah chhui-heng, iu-ki
ng-bang
> Amis teng-teng goan-chu-bin-chok e gi-gian ai hok-heng, m-thang piN-choe
> phok-but-koan lai-te e mih-kiaN, ai chiaN-cho oah e bun-hoa.
> Goa ma kang-khoan hoan-lo, na bo khah-phah-piaN leh, lan chia-e gi-gian
> sui-jian be chhin-chhiuN lan-e PeN-pou chou-sian e gi-gian kang-khoan
siau-sit
> kah kiong-beh bo khoaN-e-iaN ah, ma e7 piN-cho phok-but-koan lai-te e
> mih-kiaN.
>
> An-ne, m-chai tak-ke e-tang khoaN-chhut goa tui cheng-ti se-lek çç¾ e
> sim-cheng bou?
> ?
>
> PhaiN-se, pun-te si siuN beh kan-tan kong kui-ku oe nia. Bo-tiuN-ti koh
kong
> kah chit-toa-phiN.
>
> ChhiaN chi-kau.
>
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>
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> > Tekliat hiaN,
> >
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> >
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> > ma si annih, kam m si. Choe kin Data kap Levin nng ui ma u tholun chit
> > hang taichi, in chioh si siuN kong m ai iong chengti lekliong lai cho.
> > Chit hongbian koh kong siahoe sengpun siuN toe tengteng e liiu. Kisit
goa
> > ma tiaNtian chin sitchi, kong lan Taioan lang long bo kokka koanliam, bo
> > beh "kiankok" si siong toa e jioktiam.
> >
> > Goa chin hoantui TLPA e souji, mchai esai chhiaN li lai kong u tochit e
> > kokka e gubun iong souji lai piausi e bo.
> >
> > ChhiaN li kesiok lai ka goan chito ka goan koule, paithot.
> >
> > Tan Benghiong
> >
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