----- Original Message ----- From: "ungian,pchome" To: "keith cheng" Cc: "Hak-khiam" ; ; "" Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA

> Takke ho :
>
> Goa si kamkah kuiNmng khui GTH si kiaN boe thong e. Chichio chhiuN
> TangTiongsi chitkhoanlang, ti li bin cheng si 1 tho, ti li aupiah koh si
> lenggoa 1 tho, nasi kah chitkhoan lang kongoe kam u louiong ?
> JichhiaN lan simlai ma chai, na kasu hiah e lang hiahni ho kongoe,
> Taigubun boe bu kau chite khamcham.
>
> Tongjian lan tui TLPA iahsi Thongiong, lan kaki iahbo 1 e bengkhak
> e kiongsek, soui iha goa kanna kong goa kojin e siuNhoat.
>
> (1) Huho beh annoa soantek , si esai tholun e, bo 100% oanbi e
> huho, soui beh kong chittho huho u goa bai chin kantan, mkoh
> che ma boetang chengbeng lenggoa 1 tho to bo buntoe.

Soui ai u 1 tho pikau e goanchek theh chhutlai kongkhai tholun, siong ho
souu ai kholu e insou long ai liat--jipkhi, mui 1 e insou kap i e pitang
long ai kengkoe tholun.

Hukiann si "Taioan Gibun Hakhoe" icha leh pikau "lomaji imphiau" e
"phengsoan goanchek" kap "pitang". Icha iau bo TLPA e si, POJ hunsou siong
koan. Mkoh TLPA chhutlai liauau, kana bo ka kati khng jipkhi pikau. Na eng
kangkhoann e phiauchun lai pikau POJ kap TLPA, goa siunn POJ be khah su
TLPA.

Goa bo liaukai chiahe goanchek khaksit e igi. Hukiann laite e hunsou si goa
taiioka phah--e. Taike etang kati phah hunsou, pikau khoannmai; ma etang
tiaucheng pitang khoannmai.

Kiatgak

> (2) Kasu huho kengcheng e ketheng, si iong bo chengtong e
> chhiu-oan, simchi si beh ka tuihong ah loh toe (chhiuN chitma
> Tangtiongsi tui POJ e kongkek ), lan sitchai bo engkai tiN
> tiamtiam. Chhui kong e kholeng msi ho panhoat, lang iong
> sia e , pehchoa sia ouji, lan ma ai pehchoa sia ouji chiah
> u louiong.
>
> Goa kojin e kamkah si, chitma Thongiong (goa kojin jimui bo
> kahsek itsek e buntoe, thongiong kana 1 chiong) khoaNtioh
> TLPA chhiuN chiahchoe chugoan, soui in ka TLPA tongchoe
> tekjin. TLPA si ka POJ tongchoe tekjin (tongjian che msi kong
> souu chhaiiong TLPA e lang long anne, chisi bo piausi ikian
> e lang bo siaNim, u hoatsiaN e chuiau longsi tih kongkek
> POJ) si inui in kamkah POJ e chunchai e ittit uihiap TLPA
> "chengthong" e te-ui.
>
> Ungian 2002.6.28
>
> Ti Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:31:41 +0800 e si-chun
> keith cheng  sia i-ha e loe-iong :
>
> > Kok-ui hiaN-che:
> >
> > KhoaN Kiatgak hiaN tui Tang TS e bun-toaN7 an-ne jin-chin phe-pheng, goa
ia u koa kam-siong.
> > Khi2-thau5 khoaN-tioh chit-phiN chin hoe2 toa7. Beh sia phe-pheng, koh
siuN-kong long-hui si-kan, beh
> > kong--e, cha2 tioh kong-liau--ah.
> >
> > Koh leng-goa, TLPA si liong-seng e keng-cheng-chia (in teh thui-sak
Tai-gi chin-chiaN si chhut-lat, sui-
> > bong kong in ka7 ko3-jin5 e li-ek he ti Tai-gi e li-ek lai-bin), a-si
tek-jin (chiau in an-ne bu, e ka Tai-gi bu2--
> > si2) chit-e bun-te, na-chhiuN iau-ku ti lan bang--nih bo it-ti e
siuN-hoat.
> >
> > Chio-eng Tai-tok Thoan-the choe-kin kui-tang e hoan2-seng kap kiam-tho,
u 1-e tiong-iau e kiat-lun.
> > Tai-tok e lang phiaN-se ti kang7-khou-a lai e lang, keng2-chhut in e
mou5-peN, tiam-chhut in bo-
> > sun5 e sou-chai, phah hou in "giat-auh8 chhia-pun3-tau2". Kiat-ko
tek-jin ju lai ju che, tong-chi lu lai lu chio.
> > Un-tong na cho, lang na chio.
> >
> > Tai-gi-bun un-tong kam ia si an-ne?
> > TLPA ok-chit e sou-chai u, bo hak-sut liong-sim (ethics) e sou-chai u,
Chi-na mentality u,........ Bai sou-chai
> > 10 ki chng2-thau5 sng be liau.
> > M-koh in kam u teh phah-piaN beh hou Tai-gi koh oah-khi-lai?
> > Chit-e bun-te siong-tong tiong-iau.
> > Na u, goa jin-ui bo su-iau ka in tong-cho tek-jin.
> > Na bo, thai5 hou si!
> >
> > Put-koan an-choaN, TLPA an-choaN au3, chong-si ai hou hiah-e lang chai.
Goa kian-gi lan kam u kho-
> > leng thau-koe koan-to lai kap in khui gian-tho-hoe, cho pian-lun (phi-ju
kio Tai-lian e lip-ui khui koaiN-mng
> > e gian-tho-hoe, bo tui-goa kong-khai hit-khoan), beh thai tiam pang-keng
lai-bin thai. Mai thai chhut khi kau
> > goa-khau, khiong-kian e siah-tiau Tai-gi-bun e khi-se.
> >
> > I-siong
> > Si-chong
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2002/6/27 PM 09:30:08, ""  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "" 
> > >
> > > To: "Hak-khiam" , 
> > > Subject:Re: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA
> > > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:30:08 +0800
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Taike ho,
> > >
> > > Chit laite ue kong gah chiann u toli (huhap susit jichhiann logic e
thong),
> > > ue to u bunte (bo huhap susit asi logic be thong). Chiann taike
banbana
> > > tholun.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ti chia goa seng pouchhiong 2 tiam:
> > >
> > > 1. Chiahe chuliau khoann--khilai kap 1999/12/12 e Taioan Gibun
Chengchhek
> > > GTH hoatpiau--e oanchoan kangkhoan. Tosi kong, chitkoa u bunte e
pouhun u
> > > kihoe kaicheng, mkoh peng bo kai.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2. "(33) Kah, It imphiau pikaupio" si leh pikau "Thongiong Imphiau" e
> > > "Kahsek" kap "Itsek". Msi POJ vs. TLPA.
> > >
> > > Ti chia goa beh kiongtiau 2 e TLPA e bunte:
> > >
> > > 1. ?å¯ä»¥ä½¿èºç£ é©åèªå客家話åè
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> > >
> > >
> > > Che si 1 e kipun e bunte: taute simmih si TLPA? I e hoanui kau tohui?
TLPA e
> > > chuliau tui che long bo kong chhengchho.
> > >
> > > Chiau chit ku oe, engkai si u pauham GCB gigian. Mkoh Kauiokpou
kongpou--e
> > > sitche siong iau msi 1 e hongan. (esai anchoann, esai anchoann, ...
bo
> > > bengkhak tengchhut 1 e hongan. <http://www.edu.tw/mandr/bbs/1-4-4.htm>)
> > >
> > > 2. 2.æè²é¨å
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> > >
> > > Che si lenggoa 1 e kipun e bunte: siatke TLPA e bokphiau si siann?
> > >
> > > Chiau chit ku oe, TLPA si beh tongcho imphiau lai suiong. Na anni, i
e
> > > siatke sitche siong bo tatkau i e bokphiau.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mtann i e im bo chun nia (chit tiam chiann taike banbana tholun), u e
im
> > > TLPA ma betang piausi (chhiann mng: kejipsiann, te "8" siann e
piantiau,
> > > TLPA beh anchoann piausi), kohkhah tiongiau--e si TLPA kinpun to bo
chunchai
> > > e pitiau.
> > >
> > >
> > > Chhiann siunn khoannmai, 1 phinn lunbun laite sia "oo", "ee", "er",
...
> > > khoann e lang beh anchoann chaiiann i e chengkhak hoatim? Simsi koh
ai eng
> > > IPA (kokche imphiau) lai piausi. Na anni, eng IPA lai piausi imphiau
to ho--
> > > a, na tioh eng TLPA?
> > >
> > >
> > > TLPA kholeng iukoh si lenggoa 1 tho pophomofo, kiann be chhut Taioan.
> > >
> > > TLPA ti haksutkai eng khah che, mchai Taioan e haksutkai nah e
chiapsiu eng
> > > TLPA lai sia lunbun? Phahsng bo beh hou kokche siong e hakchia khoann
u?
> > > Phahsng TLPA betang piausi e hoanui to bian giankiu--a?
> > >
> > >
> > > Isiong,
> > >
> > > Kiatgak
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Hak-khiam
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 5:07 PM
> > >
> > > Subject: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA
> > >
> > > Tak-ke ho:
> > >
> > > Choe-kin khoaN chit pun sin-chheh.
> > > U kong tioh POJ kap TLPA. Chhau pou-hun hou tak-ke khoaN mai leh.
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