o/ou (Re: jipsiaN, 21~29 (Re: TJTST e sit, gou, hou (Re: RE: [TGB] 21 ~ 29 e "2" thak-im?)))
嚜� > "o"/"ou" goan-lai si khiuN-khau e bun-te Phaise, goa khah loso--chitkoa. Anni kong kana u koa bunte. "o" lampou liam [�], pakpou liam [o], che si khiuNkhau e bunte. "ou" chhaputto long si liam [�]. Kipun siong, "o"/"ou" e chhapiat tosi "o5-a2"/"ou7-a2" e chhapiat, si hoatim e bunte, msi khiuNkhau e bunte. Jitgi bo hun [o] kap [�], in "o" e hoatim khah oa [�]. (Na kong m tioh, chhiaN chicheng.) ChhiaN chhamkho. Kiatgak
----- Original Message ----- From: Lim Chun-iok Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: Re: jipsiaN, 21~29 (Re: TJTST e sit, gou, hou (Re: RE: [TGB] 21 ~ 29 e "2" thak-im?))
Kiatgak hiaN Chin kam-sia li koh hiah-nih-a siong-se e hun-sek. Goa chai goa pun-sin Lam-tau-lang tui ki-tha khiuN-khau e im hun be chheng-chho. Goa be-hiau hun "o" kap "ou", 1-ni goa cheng khai-si oh LMJ e si chin khun-jiau koh chin hoan-lo. Hoan-ek TJTST chiah hoat-hian "o"/"ou" goan-lai si khiuN-khau e bun-te, m-si goa thak m-tioh. Goa khoaN Tai-gi khiuN-khau piau-chun-hoa e lou kho-leng kap Jit-pun kang-hoaN tioh koh kui pah-ni loh! Koh 1-pai kam-sia li e iong-sim soat-beng. Chuniok ** _"" _** wrote:Goa liau-kai "Sit8-jit8"(pun-tiau) e "pian-tiau" thak-im chiu-si "sit-jit8". An-ne e liau-kai m-chai u cheng-khak bo? Etang kong m tioh. "Koan jipsiaN" (te 8 siaN) piantiau si piNchiaN "ke jipsiaN" (oa te 3 siaN), bo toli kong i piNchiaN "tiong jipsiaN" (te 4 siaN). "Tiong jipsiaN" kap "ke jipsiaN" e khupiat chiaN benghian, ma kana bo simmih souchai ka chit 2 e im liam cho siokang. > ChhiaN mng lin tui 撱選�"jiap8"/jih8/ji7" e 3-chiong thak-im khoaN-hoat? Lahjih hiaN kap Sikan hiaN u chiaN ho e soatbeng. Goa koh pouchhiong chitkoa khoaNhoat: (1) Siong ho si khoaN etang tiaucha 21~29 e liamhoat, hunsek khoaN u jipsiaN e senghun--bo. (Suibong piantiau liauau e jipsiaN thiaN bo siaN u, mkoh na khah benghian--e iausi thiaN e chhut--lai; lenggoa eng waveform lai hunsek bo tiaNtioh e khah ho phoaNtoan.(?) ) (2) "撱�" chit e Hanji kana bo"ji7" e im; mkoh kana u "jip8" e im. (3) "jih8" e im hoanse si ui "jip8" lai--e. (ChhiuN "tap-eng3" e liam cho "tah-eng3".) (4) Goa boai chhai ("撱�" chite) Hanji anchoaN thak, goa khah koansim 2? (20~29) chit e khailiam ti Taigi laite anchoaN liam, anchoaN piausi, … Bong chhamkho. Kiatgak ----- Original Message ----- From: Lim Chun-iok ; Kiatgak A/Lau Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: RE: TJTST e sit, gou, hou (Re: RE: [TGB] 21 ~ 29 e "2" thak-im?)
Lipbun hiaN, Kiatgak hiaN, peng-an Chin to-sia lin 2-ui hou goa hiah chheng-cho e kai-soeh. Goa hoan-ek TJTST u gi-bun e sou-chai long u cho ki-ho thang hou Li KhinhoaN k.s. teng i-au pian-chip e si chham-kho. Goa tong-i lin e kong-hoat. Tan bun-ji ai piau-chun hoa sou-i POJ chiah kiong-tiau piau "Pun-tiau". Goa liau-kai "Sit8-jit8"(pun-tiau) e "pian-tiau" thak-im chiu-si "sit-jit8". An-nee liau-kai m-chai u cheng-khak bo? ChhiaN mng lin tui 撱選�"jiap8"/jih8/ji7" e 3-chiong thak-im khoaN-hoat? Chin loulat Chuniok ** _levin _** wrote:Chun-iok hiaN, Kiat-gak kong..e goa long chan-seng. Chang-hng goa tng khi chhu u peng koe TJTST, hoat-kian: 1) TJTST iong ��� sia �sit4� kah �sit8�, m-koh kan-na u �sit4-jit8, sit4-geh8�, bo �sit8-jit8, sit8-geh8�. 2) TJTST ma iong ��� sia �gou7� kah �ngou2�, na-chhiuN ma bo �ngou2-si5�, kan-na u �gou7-si5� (iah si kong �ngou-si� si bun-gian-im; phaiN-se, chit-chun koh ki3 be7 chheng-chho..a).< Leng-goa, Douglas lai-te ma si iong �sit4-geh8, etc.�, kong �sit8-geh8, etc.� han2-tit4 thiaN lang kong2 (rare). Chiau3 goa2 khoaN, �sit4-geh8, etc.� chiah si Ho-lo-oe e kong-hoat, �sit8-geh8, etc.� si bat Han-ji e lang iong �bun-gian-im� khi thak he �ji7�, thak8 he bo-lang kong e oe-im. M-koh, tong-jian, tiaN-tiaN chham chit8-toa-tui �Han3-bun5� e hi3-bun5 thiaN ku2, chit- Koh teng-hok chit-pian Kiat-gak hiaN e oe: Gi-gian chiah si chu-the. Bun-ji si iong lai ki-lok / su-sia gi-gian..e. Chioh Han-ji lai sia lan-e gi-gian, tiaN-tiaN e7 chhut bun-te< Beh hou Han-ji mai koh an-ne kiau-chha, siong ho to si lan chin-liong mai khi iong Han-ji. ChhiaN chham-kho. Lip-bun -----Original Message-----
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Sent: Chuniok hiaN pengan, Kojin ikian: 1. Gigian si chuthe, mai tiantothau siuN, eng bunji (tekpiat si Hanji) cho chu. 2. Hanji choattui e u chenggi. KhoaN lin si beh chiau TJTST punsin e Hanji eng (khah kantan), asi beh cho siukai (soantek e goanchek khahoh teng). 3. TJTST, Kamjitian, HOTSYS e chuliau long chiaN ho, mkoh ma long u chitkoa bunte. Siong ho si ka u gibun e su chengli--chhutlai, khi sitte tiaucha. (chunkong na iau u lang ehiau kong) Lan eng "sit-jit8" cho le: a. Chit e su tosi anni kong--e. (Goa u koh khi mng koe khah sun e Taigilang.) b. I e Hanji beh anchoaN sia? Bo itteng si "thang chiah" chit ji,ma u lang kong si "sit-le" e "sit". c. Kamjitian "sit8" e kesoeh laite u kong tioh "sit-geh8", "sit-jit8" long si eng te 4 siaN. (Suibong i bo ka "thang chiah" chu te 4 siaN.) Li etang ka tu tioh e bunte theh chhulai tholun tosi chiaN ho e khaisi, na taike etang u kiongsek to kohkhah ho. Bong chhamkho. Lenggoa, chitma BP ma u khah chekkek leh sukho "subingi" e bunte. ChhiaN chhamkho BP e "pianchip chhiuki". Loulat. Kiatgak----- Original Message ----- From: Lim Chun-iok Cc: [Tai-gu-bang](https://web.archive.org/web/20050519063240/mailto: "") Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 7:38 PM Subject: Re: TJTST e sit, gou, hou (Re: RE: [TGB] 21 ~ 29 e "2" thak-im?) Kiatgak hiaN, To-sia li e hoe-eng kai-soeh. Hoan-ek TJTST u 1-noa si Tai-gi-Han-ji.Che hou goa chin khun-jiau. Eng Hotsys e Han-ji kap Kam-ji-tian u sio-khoa chhut-jip. Tan 1) � ti Hotsys kap Kam-ji-tian long si "sit8". "sit8-jit8" pian-tiau thak "sit-jit8". Sou-i goa siuN kong TJTST si-m-si ti chit-e sou-chai piau pian-tiau thak-im a m-si piau pun-tiau. 2) �� Kam-ji-tian piau "gou7-si5" tan Hotsys phah "gou7" bo �. 3) Kam-ji-tian si "Kou7(� hou7)-chhui-kong", tan Hotsys phah"kou7" bo Han-ji. I-siong chia-e khun-jiau chin che. M-chai an-choaN chhu-li khah ho. ChhiaN sian-poe chi-kau. Loulat Chuniok ** _"" _** wrote:
Chuniok hiaN pengan, (1) sit-jit8: ItpoaN long si anni kong. Tianto Hanji bunte khah toa. (2) gou7-si5: Kana bo mtioh. (3) kou7 chhui3 kong2: Kana ma bo mtioh. Hanji e bunte koh lai--a. Li ki e chit 3 e le engkai long si sia puntiau, msi sia piantiau. Na chiau gigian punsin lai khoaN (kiliok siaNim), long bo bunte chiah tioh; na kholu tuieng e Hanji, khiongkiaN to e liahchun hoatim bo tuitang--khi. Bong chhamkho. Kiatgak
----- Original Message ----- From: Lim Chun-iok Sent: Friday,April 25, 2003 1:50 AM Subject: Fwd: RE: [TGB] 21 ~ 29 e "2" thak-im? Note: forwarded message attached.
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