Re: Thongiong taute u kui chiong (Re: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA)

2002-06-30
Kiat-gak hiaN :
Ti goa e ke-oe lai-toe, au 1 pai to beh sia Thong-iong
pheng-im e bun-toe, chit-ma i-keng siu-chip tioh 1koa 
chu-liau a.


Goa beh kong e si, lan i-cheng thak "Sam-bin chu-gi " e 
si-chun, u kong A-kiong-a e thong2-chian3 si : lian-hap
chhu3-iau3 tek-jin lai taN-kek chu-iau tek-jin.

Goa siuN, I-pek-choan e thau-khak lai-toe, chu-iau tek-jin si
TLPA, ki-tha hu-ho long-si chhu-iau tek-jin, in-ui chin-cheng
1998 Kokthuihoe hit-e u buntoe e kongko chhutlai, kanna
POJ e lang u chaitiau khilai hoantui, soui POJ si siong u
sitlek e chhu-iau tek-jin.

I na beh kong sia-hoe seng, thoan-thong-seng, to bo engkai
khi piN 1 chhut bo thoan-thong-seng bo sia-hoe-seng e It-sek
chhut-lai, inui si housiong koanliam bo kangkhoan e 2 tho huho.
I chi-si beh iong POJ e chichhichia khia ti te 1 soaN kah TLPA
chhiang, i thang ho-ho-a hoat-tian i e It-sek. TeN ks kah
Hakkhiam , kholeng iahkoh u kitha lang, chinchiaN long
khi hou i phian khi a.

Li khoaN i tih thuisak Thongiong e si si thuisak to 1 tho ?
Sia lunbun kong e Thong-iong koh si toh 1 tho ?
Lan sitchai bo su-iau koh khi kiong-tiau Thong-iong u Kah-sek,
anne si ke hou mchaiiaN e lang kamkah chichhi Thongiong e lang 
chin choe.

TiuN Juhong ks pat kong , i pi Tang Tiongsi khah kho-phaN.

Ungian 2002.6.30

Ti Sun, 30 Jun 2002 03:46:35 +0800 e si-chun
""  sia i-ha e loe-iong :

> 
> > (goa kojin jimui bo
> > kahsek itsek e buntoe, thongiong kana 1 chiong)
> 
> Na si anni siong kai ho, etang u 1 e bengkhak e tholun hoanui. Che si
> chianncho 1 e "hongan" siong kipun e iaukiu.
> 
> Mkoh chiu goa e liaukai,
> 
> 1. "Thongiong Imphiau" Holooe e pouhun bat puncho "Kahsek" kap "Itsek",
> chhiann lang liansu (Taigibang laite engkai u be chio hiannche tukoe chit
> hang taichi). Ti chitkoa bunchiunn laite ma u liatchhut 2 chiong Holooe
> "hongan" kap liansu e langmia.
> 
> 2. "Thongiong Imphiau" bo joa ku to kai 1 pai, mchai ikeng u kui chiong
> panpun--a? Kautann simsi tengan--a? Bechio chichhi "Thongiong" e lang kiohsi
> kati hit tho tosi "Thongiong", sitche siong ka in e chuliau kap chitma e
> "Thongiong" pikau--chite, long u chengchha.
> 
> Na bo bengkhah e mihkiann, beh anchoann chianncho "hongan"? "hongan" bo
> khakteng to sike soanthoan, chit chiong chohoat bunte chiann toa.
> 
> TLPA ma u luisu e bunte, mkoh kap Thongiong pi--khilai, TLPA e bunte to bo
> sng bunte--a.
> 
> Chit e kipun e bunte igoa, chincheng tholun TLPA e chitkoa bunte Thongiong
> ma long u, jichhiann long ke chin giamtiong.
> 
> Chiu goa kojin e khoannhoat, ti bou 1 chiong thengtou, TLPA si etang
> chiapsiu--e; mkoh Thongiong e bunte sitchai siunn toa, lian beh the i chhoe
> 1 e hou lang chiapsiu e liiu long chiann oh.
> 
> Kiatgak
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ungian,pchome" 
> To: "keith cheng" 
> Cc: "Hak-khiam" ; ;
> "" 
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 10:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA
> 
> 
> > Takke ho :
> >
> > Goa si kamkah kuiNmng khui GTH si kiaN boe thong e. Chichio chhiuN
> > TangTiongsi chitkhoanlang, ti li bin cheng si 1 tho, ti li aupiah koh si
> > lenggoa 1 tho, nasi kah chitkhoan lang kongoe kam u louiong ?
> > JichhiaN lan simlai ma chai, na kasu hiah e lang hiahni ho kongoe,
> > Taigubun boe bu kau chite khamcham.
> >
> > Tongjian lan tui TLPA iahsi Thongiong, lan kaki iahbo 1 e bengkhak
> > e kiongsek, soui iha goa kanna kong goa kojin e siuNhoat.
> >
> > (1) Huho beh annoa soantek , si esai tholun e, bo 100% oanbi e
> > huho, soui beh kong chittho huho u goa bai chin kantan, mkoh
> > che ma boetang chengbeng lenggoa 1 tho to bo buntoe.
> >
> > (2) Kasu huho kengcheng e ketheng, si iong bo chengtong e
> > chhiu-oan, simchi si beh ka tuihong ah loh toe (chhiuN chitma
> > Tangtiongsi tui POJ e kongkek ), lan sitchai bo engkai tiN
> > tiamtiam. Chhui kong e kholeng msi ho panhoat, lang iong
> > sia e , pehchoa sia ouji, lan ma ai pehchoa sia ouji chiah
> > u louiong.
> >
> > Goa kojin e kamkah si, chitma Thongiong (goa kojin jimui bo
> > kahsek itsek e buntoe, thongiong kana 1 chiong) khoaNtioh
> > TLPA chhiuN chiahchoe chugoan, soui in ka TLPA tongchoe
> > tekjin. TLPA si ka POJ tongchoe tekjin (tongjian che msi kong
> > souu chhaiiong TLPA e lang long anne, chisi bo piausi ikian
> > e lang bo siaNim, u hoatsiaN e chuiau longsi tih kongkek
> > POJ) si inui in kamkah POJ e chunchai e ittit uihiap TLPA
> > "chengthong" e te-ui.
> >
> > Ungian 2002.6.28
> >
> > Ti Fri, 28 Jun 2002 01:31:41 +0800 e si-chun
> > keith cheng  sia i-ha e loe-iong :
> >
> > > Kok-ui hiaN-che:
> > >
> > > KhoaN Kiatgak hiaN tui Tang TS e bun-toaN7 an-ne jin-chin phe-pheng, goa
> ia u koa kam-siong.
> > > Khi2-thau5 khoaN-tioh chit-phiN chin hoe2 toa7. Beh sia phe-pheng, koh
> siuN-kong long-hui si-kan, beh
> > > kong--e, cha2 tioh kong-liau--ah.
> > >
> > > Koh leng-goa, TLPA si liong-seng e keng-cheng-chia (in teh thui-sak
> Tai-gi chin-chiaN si chhut-lat, sui-
> > > bong kong in ka7 ko3-jin5 e li-ek he ti Tai-gi e li-ek lai-bin), a-si
> tek-jin (chiau in an-ne bu, e ka Tai-gi bu2--
> > > si2) chit-e bun-te, na-chhiuN iau-ku ti lan bang--nih bo it-ti e
> siuN-hoat.
> > >
> > > Chio-eng Tai-tok Thoan-the choe-kin kui-tang e hoan2-seng kap kiam-tho,
> u 1-e tiong-iau e kiat-lun.
> > > Tai-tok e lang phiaN-se ti kang7-khou-a lai e lang, keng2-chhut in e
> mou5-peN, tiam-chhut in bo-
> > > sun5 e sou-chai, phah hou in "giat-auh8 chhia-pun3-tau2". Kiat-ko
> tek-jin ju lai ju che, tong-chi lu lai lu chio.
> > > Un-tong na cho, lang na chio.
> > >
> > > Tai-gi-bun un-tong kam ia si an-ne?
> > > TLPA ok-chit e sou-chai u, bo hak-sut liong-sim (ethics) e sou-chai u,
> Chi-na mentality u,........ Bai sou-chai
> > > 10 ki chng2-thau5 sng be liau.
> > > M-koh in kam u teh phah-piaN beh hou Tai-gi koh oah-khi-lai?
> > > Chit-e bun-te siong-tong tiong-iau.
> > > Na u, goa jin-ui bo su-iau ka in tong-cho tek-jin.
> > > Na bo, thai5 hou si!
> > >
> > > Put-koan an-choaN, TLPA an-choaN au3, chong-si ai hou hiah-e lang chai.
> Goa kian-gi lan kam u kho-
> > > leng thau-koe koan-to lai kap in khui gian-tho-hoe, cho pian-lun (phi-ju
> kio Tai-lian e lip-ui khui koaiN-mng
> > > e gian-tho-hoe, bo tui-goa kong-khai hit-khoan), beh thai tiam pang-keng
> lai-bin thai. Mai thai chhut khi kau
> > > goa-khau, khiong-kian e siah-tiau Tai-gi-bun e khi-se.
> > >
> > > I-siong
> > > Si-chong
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2002/6/27 PM 09:30:08, ""  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: "" 
> > > >
> > > > To: "Hak-khiam" , 
> > > > Subject:Re: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA
> > > > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:30:08 +0800
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Taike ho,
> > > >
> > > > Chit laite ue kong gah chiann u toli (huhap susit jichhiann logic e
> thong),
> > > > ue to u bunte (bo huhap susit asi logic be thong). Chiann taike
> banbana
> > > > tholun.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ti chia goa seng pouchhiong 2 tiam:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Chiahe chuliau khoann--khilai kap 1999/12/12 e Taioan Gibun
> Chengchhek
> > > > GTH hoatpiau--e oanchoan kangkhoan. Tosi kong, chitkoa u bunte e
> pouhun u
> > > > kihoe kaicheng, mkoh peng bo kai.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2. "(33) Kah, It imphiau pikaupio" si leh pikau "Thongiong Imphiau" e
> > > > "Kahsek" kap "Itsek". Msi POJ vs. TLPA.
> > > >
> > > > Ti chia goa beh kiongtiau 2 e TLPA e bunte:
> > > >
> > > > 1. ?å¯ä»¥ä½¿èºç£ é©åèªåå®¢å®¶è©±åè
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Che si 1 e kipun e bunte: taute simmih si TLPA? I e hoanui kau tohui?
> TLPA e
> > > > chuliau tui che long bo kong chhengchho.
> > > >
> > > > Chiau chit ku oe, engkai si u pauham GCB gigian. Mkoh Kauiokpou
> kongpou--e
> > > > sitche siong iau msi 1 e hongan. (esai anchoann, esai anchoann, ...
> bo
> > > > bengkhak tengchhut 1 e hongan. <http://www.edu.tw/mandr/bbs/1-4-4.htm>)
> > > >
> > > > 2. 2.æè²é¨å
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> > > >
> > > > Che si lenggoa 1 e kipun e bunte: siatke TLPA e bokphiau si siann?
> > > >
> > > > Chiau chit ku oe, TLPA si beh tongcho imphiau lai suiong. Na anni, i
> e
> > > > siatke sitche siong bo tatkau i e bokphiau.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mtann i e im bo chun nia (chit tiam chiann taike banbana tholun), u e
> im
> > > > TLPA ma betang piausi (chhiann mng: kejipsiann, te "8" siann e
> piantiau,
> > > > TLPA beh anchoann piausi), kohkhah tiongiau--e si TLPA kinpun to bo
> chunchai
> > > > e pitiau.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chhiann siunn khoannmai, 1 phinn lunbun laite sia "oo", "ee", "er",
> ...
> > > > khoann e lang beh anchoann chaiiann i e chengkhak hoatim? Simsi koh
> ai eng
> > > > IPA (kokche imphiau) lai piausi. Na anni, eng IPA lai piausi imphiau
> to ho--
> > > > a, na tioh eng TLPA?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > TLPA kholeng iukoh si lenggoa 1 tho pophomofo, kiann be chhut Taioan.
> > > >
> > > > TLPA ti haksutkai eng khah che, mchai Taioan e haksutkai nah e
> chiapsiu eng
> > > > TLPA lai sia lunbun? Phahsng bo beh hou kokche siong e hakchia khoann
> u?
> > > > Phahsng TLPA betang piausi e hoanui to bian giankiu--a?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Isiong,
> > > >
> > > > Kiatgak
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Hak-khiam
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 5:07 PM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: [TGB] Sin chheh chhut pan: POJ vs. TLPA
> > > >
> > > > Tak-ke ho:
> > > >
> > > > Choe-kin khoaN chit pun sin-chheh.
> > > > U kong tioh POJ kap TLPA. Chhau pou-hun hou tak-ke khoaN mai leh.
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