Re: Tak-ke
Lip-bun hiann, 1)Bun-ji phiau-chun-hoa si lan it-teng ai chhu-li e tai-chi. Kin-ki su-bin chu-liau(su-tian, po-choa, tak-lui e chheh teng-teng) lai cho. M-ku goa chin tongi li sou kong e, tian-ia tiau-cha choat-tui chiok iau-kin! Tek-piat si koe-kho Jit-pun lang sia e TJTST i-keng si 100 tang cheng e tai-chi, chit-ma u sim-mih pian-hoa lan su-sit bochin chheng-chho. Na-si it-tit long iong lek-su bun-hian cho phiau-chun, goa ma kam-kak m-si chin tho-tong! Gi-gian si oah8 e, e pian-hoa. Che lan long chai. Koh-chai kong, u chin-che TG si tui GCB e gi-su lai e. Chit hong-bin goa jin-ui lan su-iau koh ka-kiong. Hak-sut-kai e peng-iu pai-thok kho-lu khai-si chin-heng. 2)Khiunn-khau e chhu-li, goa chun-tiong Khin-hoann hiann e chu-tiunn, M-ku goa ma jin-ui BO pit-iau ka siau-biat. Hoan-se khiunn-khau u hak-sut(eg, etymology) e ke-tat leh! 3)"Tai-ke" e thak-hoat eng-kai si an-choann? Ki-sit lan na-chhiunn long it-tit iong Han-ji teh su-kho. Na-si Han-ji, chiu kan-ta u tai7ke1 kap tak8e5 2 chiong kho-leng nia. Na mai iong Han-ji lai chhu-li, beh iong tai7ke7 chiu bo sim-mih thang khe1-kho2 louh! M-chai an-ne kong kiam u to-li? Babuza
----- Original Message ----- From: levin ; [](https://web.archive.org/web/20051027234708/mailto: "") Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:55 AM Subject: RE: [TGB] Tak-ke
Babuza hiaN, Na-chun âtok8-lip8â lai kong, ti chit8-kuoe e jin-ho sou-chai, âtak-keâ long si âtak8-ke7â, goa jin-ui lan to ai seng-jin ti lan chim-a e Tai-gi, he to si âtak8-ke7â. Che kah âtioNâ sia cho âtiuNâ e cheng-hengbo kang-khoan: lan long kong lan sia..e si bun-ji, m-si im-phiau, sou-i lan e-tang an-ne chhu-li: lai-soaN-khiuNkhoaN tioh âtiuNâ tak [tioN] ma bo bun-te. KhiuN-khau si chit8-hoe-su, cheng-khak bo cheng-khak si leng-goa chit-hoe-su. âTak8-ke1â iah si âtak8-ke7â eng-kai si cheng-khak bo cheng-khak e bun-te. Bo, to ai u tian-ia tiau-cha cheng-beng nng-chiong siaN-tiau long u-lang kong. Na-chun âtak8-ke1â si ui5-it cheng-khak..e, lan to ai ui3 Tai-gi e phonology theh chhut âsi an-choaN long kong cho âtak8-ke7ââ e kai-soeh. Khin-hoaN hiaN jin-ui khiuN-khauai âpiau-chun-hoaâ, goa be-tang liau-kai. Si m-si kong ai ka in âthong-itâ--khi-lai? Lan beh nah e-tang iong sim-mih pan-hoat khi tong-it khiuN-khau (dialects)--leh? Ti jin-ho gi-gian, khiuN-khau e chun-chai si chiaN chu-jian..e. M-koh, ti lan Tai-oan, bo-kang khiuN-khau lam-lai lam-khi, kau-boe goa khoaN ma si e âthong-itâ--khi-lai. Chong--si goa bo jin-ui lan ai oh8 in Hoa-gi-lang iong kau-iok iah si sim-mih chhiu-toaN lai cho chit-khoan âthong-itâ e tai-chi. (Ki-sit, goa cheng-kui-kang iau-koh ti hoe-tap hit-e M. Yan e si-chun kong--tioh: goa ng-bang chiah-e khiuN-khau longe-tang oah--loh-khi, goa ka in tong cho si lan gi-gian e blessing, m-si curse.) Iau-koh chit8-tiam: bun5-hian3 tong-jian si lan chiaN po-kui e chu-goan, lan tong-jian ai ho-ho po-sioh, cheng-li, li-iong. M-koh lan ma ai chu3-tiong7 tian5-ia2. Tian5-ia2 e su-sit lan be-tang teN bo khoaN--kiN. ChhiaN chham-kho. Lip-bun -----Original Message-----
From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Hokkchu
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 2:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [TGB] Tak-ke Lip-bun hiann, R: âTak-ke.â (siong kan-seng e hoe-tap. Ti chit-e cheng-heng, goa ma si kong cho âtak8-ke7â.) Goama an-ne kong! Chong-si goa tiann-tioh sia tai-ke1. Khau-gi u chin-che bo cheng-khak/bo kang khiunn-khau e sou-chai. M-ku lan na behhou bun-ji phiau-chun hoa, lan su-iau ka lan chai-iann m-tioh e kai--koe. Cha-hng Khin-hoann hiann lai goa chia khai-kang. I sim-chi kian-gi khiunn-khau ma su-iau phiau-chun hoa. Tai-lam lang long ka goa e senn3 thak-cho Tionn, m-ku Khin-hoannhiann long sia Tiunn. Hu tai-ke chham-kho. Babuza----- Original Message ----- From: levin ; [](https://web.archive.org/web/20051027234708/mailto: "") Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:11 PM Subject: RE: [TGB] Tak-ke Babuza hiaN, Goa ma si u hun âtak-keâ kah âtak-eâ..e. Goa-e hun-piat kah li eng-kai si kang-khoan. M-koh goa ki2chhut âtak-keâ ti chit8-ku oe7 siong lou-boe e position, to si beh kong he eng-kai si po-chhi âpun-tiauâ e sou-chai. Goa koh ki chit8-e le7: Q: âChe thng5-a2 beh pun hou siaN-lang?â R: âTak-ke.â (siong kan-seng e hoe-tap. Ti chit-e cheng-heng, goa ma si kong cho âtak8-ke7â.) Lip-bun -----Original Message-----
From: Hokkchu [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 6:53 PM
To: levin;
Subject: Re: [TGB] Tak-ke Goa iau-boe oh TIJ i-cheng, long kong li1,goa2,"i7". Oh TOJ koh kha-si sia, chiah kam-kak si li1,goa2 ,"i1" chiah tioh. Tak-ke u 2 chiong kho-leng: 1)All of you/us, goa long sia tai7ke1; 2)Everyone of you/us, goa chiu sia tak8e5. In-ui tai-ke chit-e su bo "tan-tok su-iong", chiu na-chhiunn in1ui7, sim7chi3, tan7si7, sou-i si choan-pou pian-tiau. Thak--khi--lai chiu-si in7ui3, sim7chi2,tan3si3. Ti goan e kau-hak lai-bin long ka hak-seng kong" M-si tan-tok iong-su(hu3ka1su5), tiann-tioh si choan-pou pian-tiau. Ti goan chiap-siu Lam5sin5 e kho-chhi e si, chit pou-hun chin iau-kin. Na bo chu-i chiu hou Tenn bok-su toa7toa7pit4 HM!--chit--e. hiu be thong-koe lah. Hou tai-ke chham-kho. Babuza----- Original Message ----- From: levin Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:26 AM Subject: [TGB] Tak-ke U chit8-e bun-te khng ti sim-koaN-thau chiaN ku2..a. Beh mng lang koh âkiaN phaiN-seâ. Chim-a chhan-chhan to theh chhut-lai chheng-kau tak-ke: Chit-e âtak-keâ (everyone; all of us) tau-te si âtak8-ke1â iah si âtak8-ke7â? Chai goa khoaN--lai eng-kai si âtak8-ke7â, m-koh na-chhiuN bo-lang an-ne sia2. Tai-beng-su (pronouns) chhin-chhiuN âgoa2â, âli2â, âiâ, âlan2ââ¦ti chu2-su5 (subject) e position pian-tiau, ti siu7-su5 (object) e position sui5-chian5 pian3-tiau7 (tu5-hui si ui7-tioh beh kiang5-tiau7), che lan long chai-iaN. Goa pun-chiaN siuN kong âtak-keâ ma si chit-chiong cheng-heng. M-koh, goa ka-ti leh kong-oe, bo-lun âtak-keâ ti sim-mih position,long si kong cho âtak8-ke7â, â-ke7â long si te-7-siaN. âI na siu-khi, to beh phah tak-ke.â (object) âtak-ke bong cham-kho.â (object) âThng5-a2 theh khi pun tak-ke.â (object)âÓ͘ Che si goa ka-ti chu7 se-han to teng-taN--khi, iah si an-choaN? Teng-pang tak-ke tho-lun tioh âtak-keâ kah âtai-keâ e si-chun, goa to chin siuN beh chheng-kau tak-ke (ti chia, goa kang-khoan e7 kong cho âtak8-ke7â). ChhiaN kok-ui hiaN-che chi-kau. Lou-lat. Lip-bun