Re: Re: [TGB] 「原住民語仍無完整的文字表 達體系」?
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Hak-khiam hiaN, Lou-lat-li. Chit-koa-a siuN-hoat, chhiaN chi-kau: 1. Koan-he "bun-ji bo piau-chun-hoa teng-i bo bun-ji" e lun-tiam, iong Jit-bun cho le e-tang liau-kai thau-thiat. Kau-taN Jit-gi e su-tian kian-gi e iong-ji to-u cheng-chha! Jit-bun iong-ji e to-goan hian-siong be khah su Tai-gi-bun Han-Lo. E-sai kong se-kan m-bat u piau-chun-hoa e Jit-gi bun-ji. Jit-pun-lang ka-ti bo jin-ui in bo ji, goa-kok-lang ma bo an-ne siuN. 2. "é主è¦çåå æ¯å°èªti7éè¨ç¤¾æä¸hong5ç¶åä½éèªè¨(Low variety)ï¼å çºå°ä½ä½ï¼èªç¶èç¡åéè¦ï¼ä¼çæååm7 æ¯é å®æ¹ææ¯æºèååçæ¨sakï¼ç¡æ¬å¢ä½bak-kuï¼ç¤¾æå°ä½ä½è·¯ï¼æ¯hong5çç¡ç®å°çæåã": Chit-toaN hun-sek oan-choan sek-iong ti TG Bun-gian-bun kap TG "thou2-gi2" e lek-su, sia-hoe koan-he. Sui-bong Bun-jin kai-kip i-keng biat, KIP iu-goan kiong-tiau TG kau-su ka3 bun-gian-bun, e-sai kai-thak cho leng-goa 1-chiong Bun-gian ke-tat-koan chi-phoe khau-gi bun-hoa e sin pau-chong. 3. "…å°èªæ¬èº«çèªè¨ç¹è²ma7æ¯é æ使ç¨æ¼¢åæååçå°é£": Leng-goa 1-chiong piau-tat hong-sek, "æ¼¢åæ¬èº«çèªè¨ç¹è²ma7é æå°èªæååçå°é£." Siong chheng-chho e le toh-si Han-ji Lam-to-gi-hoa e khun-lan. --Hong-giau----- Original Message----- From: ; ; [](https://web.archive.org/web/20050519222633/mailto: "") Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [TGB] RE: [TGB] ãåä½æ°èªä»ç¡å®æ´çæå表éé«ç³»ã?
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