Keith: You are getting close. It is a mutation of what you mentioned below. Yet, "Before we discussion the issue further, please check out the articles on "ideo-phonetic language" in the Aletheir Univ. publication, Tainan Mato.", which is the Ref. It is more academicthan for common consumption. If you are really interested and cannot find the publications, I can send you copies. Thx.

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From: keith cheng [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 9:32 AM
To: Yan, M; 'Hokkchu'; ; 'Konrad Hsu Aschenbach'; 'taigu'
Subject: Re: [TGB] Konrad's introduction

Ideophonetic is ideographic+phonetic. Please see http://users.swing.be/grande_muraille/langchin/langcatdet5.html According to the following reference http://chinesecomputing.org.futuresite.register.com/_wsn/page2.html, ideo-phonetic system is " å½¢è²" within å ­æ¸ (6 writing principles), one of the way to make Chinese characters(æ¼¢å­). Yan, can you provide your reference? Sichong

----- Original Message ----- From: Yan, M ; ; ['taigu'](https://web.archive.org/web/20060117083213/mailto: "") Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:26 PM Subject: RE: [TGB] Konrad's introduction
Babuza: Before we discussion the issue further, please check out the articles on "ideo-phonetic language" in the Aletheir Univ. publication, Tainan Mato. Ideo-phonetic is NOT ideographic. The former is a spelling language, while the latter is a graphic language which includes Han-ji. Thx.

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From: Hokkchu [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 8:08 AM
To: Yan, M; ; 'Konrad Hsu Aschenbach'; 'taigu'
Subject: Re: [TGB] Konrad's introduction

Tai-ke CTT! Tui MR.Yan lai kong, kho-leng kan-ta Big-5 chiah-si bun-ji, ki-tha e long m-si. In-ui i kong e bun-te ma chhut-ti Eng-gi kap ki-tha, pau-ham Tiong-kok-hi(chiu-si kan-the e Han-ji). Na-si an-ne chiu bo su-iau liau si-kan kong tho-lun lah. Babuza