Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

2012-09-02

Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

From:
Date: 2012-09-02 18:24:05

Koh pó͘-chhiong chi̍t-tiám chò chham-khó:

Kóng tiān-soàⁿ-phoe ê lâng in tùi lō͘-piⁿ ê thiāu-á

mā oē án-ne kóng

lō͘-teng, tiān-hé-thiāu-á, tiān-pò-thiāu-á.

Kok-ūi, Ló͘-la̍t! Ló͘-la̍t!

Chheh kah si̍t-bū sī siáⁿ-mi̍h?

Khì Ko-hiông chò tē-lí si̍t-cha to̍h oē chai-iáⁿ sī-m̄-sī ū tîn-tâⁿ(a̍h-sī tīn-tâⁿ).

CKE

----- Original Message -----

From: Lim Chun-iok

To: Lau Seng-hian

Cc: Taigubang

Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2012 9:39 PM

Subject: Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

如附件！

2012/9/1 Lau Seng-hian

唉，銅線批to有影就是"電報"，che幾若冬前LKK讀冊會就bat講--ah。

拄chiah仔去查台日典，銅線批/電線批 攏有收，正正就是"電報"e意思無毋著。

LKK讀冊會e老師程度是一流水(it-liu-sui)--e，伊教--阮-e，be teng-tann--啦。

On Sep 1, 2012 7:22 PM, "andrew kuo"  wrote:

  Chin to-sia chit khoan e kian-kai! Goa chin ai khi khoann 
  "Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, kong-goân 1892nî

  Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe"  tau-ti 
  si ti sim-mih khoan e bun-meh *context)! Na m-chai hit e ji-gan e 
  "context" chiu chin khun lan koat-teng hit e jigan e i-su.

  Koeh Tekliat  

  From:  To:  CC:  Subject: Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu 
  tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 17:45:17 +0800

  Lāu-su-á,

  Tiān-soàⁿ-phoe sī kóng lō͘-piⁿ--ê 
  tiān-hé/hoé-thiāu-á.

  Siat-sú ū chi̍t-gê 
  lâng i teh cháu-lō͘, i m̄-ài lâng chai-iáⁿ i-ê chū-só͘, i ū-lō͘-bô-chhù, 
  ...

  Lâng mn̄g: "Lím/In tau sī toà tī 
  tó?"

  I/Lâng ìn: "Goá/I hō͘-che̍k 
  kùi/koà-tī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe!"

  Lán chá-kî lóng oē tī 
  tiān-hé-thiāu-á khoàⁿ-tio̍h:

  Téng-koân tah chhē/chhoē-lâng, chhē 
  mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, chhē káu-á, chhē niau-á, ū-chhù boh/beh cho͘--lâng, ... ê 
  kò-sī.

  Kim-êng Kèng-siōng

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    **From:** Lau Seng-hian 

    **To:** 福當 陳 

    **Cc:**  

    **Sent:** Friday, August 31, 2012 7:21 PM

    **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê  siáⁿ-mih

Tian-soann-phoe, kam si tian7-po3? Ma u lang kong tang5-soann3-phoe.

    On Aug 31, 2012 1:54 PM, "福當 陳"  wrote:

      Kok-ūi chiân-pòe pêng-an：

      Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, kong-goân 
      1892nî

      Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe, m̄-chai 
      tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe

      sī siáⁿ-mih, chhéng-kàu kok-ūi sian-chìn .

      Tân Hok-tong

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Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

From:
Date: 2012-09-02 19:04:45

Kóng si̍t-chāi, kóng tiān-pò sī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe, goá sī tē-1-pái khoàⁿ-tio̍h kah thiaⁿ-tio̍h. Ū-kàu-sông.

Tī goá chai-iáⁿ ū telex kah fax ê chìn-cheng, lóng oē tiāⁿ-tiāⁿ thiaⁿ-tio̍h the̍h-phoe ê lâng(Iû-chhe a̍h-sī Iu-chhai) tī lâng-ê mn̂g-kha-khau toā-soè-siaⁿ hiu "Tiān-pò!". M̄-pat thiaⁿ in kóng "tiān-soàⁿ-phoe". Kiám sī kan-nā goá m-pat thiaⁿ-tio̍h niā?

Koh pó͘-chhiong chi̍t-tiám chò chham-khó:

Kóng tiān-soàⁿ-phoe ê lâng in tùi lō͘-piⁿ ê thiāu-á

mā oē án-ne kóng

lō͘-teng, tiān-hé-thiāu-á, tiān-pò-thiāu-á.

Kok-ūi, Ló͘-la̍t! Ló͘-la̍t!

Chheh kah si̍t-bū sī siáⁿ-mi̍h?

Khì Ko-hiông chò tē-lí si̍t-cha to̍h oē chai-iáⁿ sī-m̄-sī ū tîn-tâⁿ(a̍h-sī tīn-tâⁿ).

CKE

----- Original Message -----

From: Lim Chun-iok

To: Lau Seng-hian

Cc: Taigubang

Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2012 9:39 PM

Subject: Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

如附件！

2012/9/1 Lau Seng-hian

唉，銅線批to有影就是"電報"，che幾若冬前LKK讀冊會就bat講--ah。

拄chiah仔去查台日典，銅線批/電線批 攏有收，正正就是"電報"e意思無毋著。

LKK讀冊會e老師程度是一流水(it-liu-sui)--e，伊教--阮-e，be teng-tann--啦。

On Sep 1, 2012 7:22 PM, "andrew kuo"  wrote:

  Chin to-sia chit khoan e kian-kai! Goa chin ai khi khoann 
  "Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, kong-goân 1892nî

  Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe"  tau-ti 
  si ti sim-mih khoan e bun-meh *context)! Na m-chai hit e ji-gan e 
  "context" chiu chin khun lan koat-teng hit e jigan e i-su.

  Koeh Tekliat  

  From:  To:  CC:  Subject: Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu 
  tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 17:45:17 +0800

  Lāu-su-á,

  Tiān-soàⁿ-phoe sī kóng lō͘-piⁿ--ê 
  tiān-hé/hoé-thiāu-á.

  Siat-sú ū chi̍t-gê 
  lâng i teh cháu-lō͘, i m̄-ài lâng chai-iáⁿ i-ê chū-só͘, i ū-lō͘-bô-chhù, 
  ...

  Lâng mn̄g: "Lím/In tau sī toà tī 
  tó?"

  I/Lâng ìn: "Goá/I hō͘-che̍k 
  kùi/koà-tī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe!"

  Lán chá-kî lóng oē tī 
  tiān-hé-thiāu-á khoàⁿ-tio̍h:

  Téng-koân tah chhē/chhoē-lâng, chhē 
  mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, chhē káu-á, chhē niau-á, ū-chhù boh/beh cho͘--lâng, ... ê 
  kò-sī.

  Kim-êng Kèng-siōng

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    **From:** Lau Seng-hian 

    **To:** 福當 陳 

    **Cc:**  

    **Sent:** Friday, August 31, 2012 7:21 PM

    **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê  siáⁿ-mih

Tian-soann-phoe, kam si tian7-po3? Ma u lang kong tang5-soann3-phoe.

    On Aug 31, 2012 1:54 PM, "福當 陳"  wrote:

      Kok-ūi chiân-pòe pêng-an：

      Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, kong-goân 
      1892nî

      Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe, m̄-chai 
      tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe

      sī siáⁿ-mih, chhéng-kàu kok-ūi sian-chìn .

      Tân Hok-tong

-- 基本人權：使用母語活出台灣人ê尊嚴！ Lim Chun-iok http://sloan.fhl.net(台語點字) http://hakka.fhl.net http://taigi.fhl.net

Re: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

From: Lau Seng-hian
Date: 2012-09-02 19:12:28

年歲e關係，銅線批/電線批是清國時代e語詞，日本人來了後，真濟詞就khit hou日製漢語取代--ah，che無奇怪。

若有人超過80，koh bat ti少年時接觸著chit款hit當時kai新e科技，e khah有機會聽--著。

老台語hoan老台語，be用得用chit-ma e人做準憑。

(古早"火車"講做"火薰車"，chit-ma e人m-bat聽，m-koh，che無代表伊m-bat存在--過。)

On Sep 2, 2012 7:04 PM, wrote:

Kóng si̍t-chāi, kóng tiān-pò sī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe, goá sī tē-1-pái khoàⁿ-tio̍h kah thiaⁿ-tio̍h. Ū-kàu-sông.

Koh pó͘-chhiong chi̍t-tiám chò chham-khó:

Kóng tiān-soàⁿ-phoe ê lâng in tùi lō͘-piⁿ ê thiāu-á

mā oē án-ne kóng

lō͘-teng, tiān-hé-thiāu-á, tiān-pò-thiāu-á.

Kok-ūi, Ló͘-la̍t! Ló͘-la̍t!

Chheh kah si̍t-bū sī siáⁿ-mi̍h?

Khì Ko-hiông chò tē-lí si̍t-cha to̍h oē chai-iáⁿ sī-m̄-sī ū tîn-tâⁿ(a̍h-sī tīn-tâⁿ).

CKE

----- Original Message -----

From: Lim Chun-iok

To: Lau Seng-hian

Cc: Taigubang

Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2012 9:39 PM

Subject: Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

如附件！

2012/9/1 Lau Seng-hian

唉，銅線批to有影就是"電報"，che幾若冬前LKK讀冊會就bat講--ah。

拄chiah仔去查台日典，銅線批/電線批 攏有收，正正就是"電報"e意思無毋著。

LKK讀冊會e老師程度是一流水(it-liu-sui)--e，伊教--阮-e，be teng-tann--啦。

On Sep 1, 2012 7:22 PM, "andrew kuo"  wrote:

  Chin to-sia chit khoan e kian-kai! Goa chin ai khi khoann 
  "Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, kong-goân 1892nî

  Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe"  tau-ti 
  si ti sim-mih khoan e bun-meh *context)! Na m-chai hit e ji-gan e 
  "context" chiu chin khun lan koat-teng hit e jigan e i-su.

  Koeh Tekliat  

  From:  To:  CC:

Subject: Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 17:45:17 +0800

  Lāu-su-á,

  Tiān-soàⁿ-phoe sī kóng lō͘-piⁿ--ê 
  tiān-hé/hoé-thiāu-á.

  Siat-sú ū chi̍t-gê 
  lâng i teh cháu-lō͘, i m̄-ài lâng chai-iáⁿ i-ê chū-só͘, i ū-lō͘-bô-chhù, 
  ...

  Lâng mn̄g: "Lím/In tau sī toà tī 
  tó?"

  I/Lâng ìn: "Goá/I hō͘-che̍k 
  kùi/koà-tī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe!"

  Lán chá-kî lóng oē tī 
  tiān-hé-thiāu-á khoàⁿ-tio̍h:

  Téng-koân tah chhē/chhoē-lâng, chhē 
  mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, chhē káu-á, chhē niau-á, ū-chhù boh/beh cho͘--lâng, ... ê 
  kò-sī.

  Kim-êng Kèng-siōng

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    **From:** Lau Seng-hian 

    **To:** 福當 陳 

    **Cc:**  

    **Sent:** Friday, August 31, 2012 7:21 PM

    **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê  siáⁿ-mih

Tian-soann-phoe, kam si tian7-po3? Ma u lang kong tang5-soann3-phoe.

    On Aug 31, 2012 1:54 PM, "福當 陳"  wrote:

      Kok-ūi chiân-pòe pêng-an：

      Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, kong-goân 
      1892nî

      Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe, m̄-chai 
      tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe

      sī siáⁿ-mih, chhéng-kàu kok-ūi sian-chìn .

      Tân Hok-tong

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Re: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

From: 周定邦
Date: 2012-09-03 10:03:10

"tiān-soàⁿ-phoe" phēng "tiān-pò" khah siá-si̍t, sûi thiaⁿ tō sûi chai sī Pak-á-ōe ê "電報̀",

chit-khoán gí-sû ū tài Tâi-gí chú-thé-sèng ê su-khó, m̄-chai toh-ūi leh sông? mā m̄-chai leh sông án-choáⁿ--ê?

CTP

----- Original Message -----

From: Lau Seng-hian

To:

Cc: Taigi_Bang

Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

年歲e關係，銅線批/電線批是清國時代e語詞，日本人來了後，真濟詞就khit hou日製漢語取代--ah，che無奇怪。

若有人超過80，koh bat ti少年時接觸著chit款hit當時kai新e科技，e khah有機會聽--著。

老台語hoan老台語，be用得用chit-ma e人做準憑。

(古早"火車"講做"火薰車"，chit-ma e人m-bat聽，m-koh，che無代表伊m-bat存在--過。)

On Sep 2, 2012 7:04 PM, wrote:

Kóng si̍t-chāi, kóng tiān-pò sī 
tiān-soàⁿ-phoe, goá sī tē-1-pái khoàⁿ-tio̍h kah thiaⁿ-tio̍h.  
Ū-kàu-sông.

Tī goá chai-iáⁿ ū telex kah fax ê 
chìn-cheng, lóng oē tiāⁿ-tiāⁿ thiaⁿ-tio̍h the̍h-phoe ê lâng(Iû-chhe 
a̍h-sī Iu-chhai) tī lâng-ê mn̂g-kha-khau toā-soè-siaⁿ hiu 
"Tiān-pò!".  M̄-pat thiaⁿ in kóng "tiān-soàⁿ-phoe".  Kiám sī 
kan-nā goá m-pat thiaⁿ-tio̍h niā? 

Koh pó͘-chhiong chi̍t-tiám chò 
chham-khó:

Kóng tiān-soàⁿ-phoe ê lâng in tùi 
lō͘-piⁿ ê thiāu-á

mā oē án-ne kóng

lō͘-teng, tiān-hé-thiāu-á, 
tiān-pò-thiāu-á.

:)

Kok-ūi,  Ló͘-la̍t!  Ló͘-la̍t!

Chheh kah si̍t-bū sī 
siáⁿ-mi̍h?

Khì Ko-hiông chò tē-lí 
si̍t-cha to̍h oē chai-iáⁿ sī-m̄-sī ū tîn-tâⁿ(a̍h-sī tīn-tâⁿ).

:)

CKE

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  **From:** Lim Chun-iok 

  **To:** Lau Seng-hian 

  **Cc:** Taigubang 

  **Sent:** Saturday, September 01, 2012 9:39 PM

  **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

如附件！

  2012/9/1 Lau Seng-hian 

    唉，銅線批to有影就是"電報"，che幾若冬前LKK讀冊會就bat講--ah。

    拄chiah仔去查台日典，銅線批/電線批 攏有收，正正就是"電報"e意思無毋著。

    LKK讀冊會e老師程度是一流水(it-liu-sui)--e，伊教--阮-e，be teng-tann--啦。

    On Sep 1, 2012 7:22 PM, "andrew kuo"  wrote:
    
      Chin to-sia chit khoan e kian-kai! Goa chin ai khi khoann 
      "Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, kong-goân 
      1892nî

      Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe"  
      tau-ti si ti sim-mih khoan e bun-meh *context)! Na m-chai hit 
      e ji-gan e "context" chiu chin khun lan koat-teng hit e jigan e 
      i-su.

      Koeh Tekliat  

      From:  To:  CC:  Subject: Re: [tgb] 
      Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 17:45:17 
      +0800

      Lāu-su-á,

      Tiān-soàⁿ-phoe sī kóng 
      lō͘-piⁿ--ê tiān-hé/hoé-thiāu-á.

      Siat-sú ū chi̍t-gê 
      lâng i teh cháu-lō͘, i m̄-ài lâng chai-iáⁿ i-ê chū-só͘, i 
      ū-lō͘-bô-chhù, ...

      Lâng mn̄g: "Lím/In tau sī toà 
      tī tó?"

      I/Lâng ìn: "Goá/I hō͘-che̍k 
      kùi/koà-tī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe!"

      Lán chá-kî lóng oē tī 
      tiān-hé-thiāu-á khoàⁿ-tio̍h:

      Téng-koân tah chhē/chhoē-lâng, 
      chhē mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, chhē káu-á, chhē niau-á, ū-chhù boh/beh cho͘--lâng, 
      ... ê kò-sī.

      Kim-êng Kèng-siōng

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        **From:** Lau Seng-hian 
        
        **To:** 福當 陳 

        **Cc:**  

        **Sent:** Friday, August 31, 2012 7:21 PM

        **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
        siáⁿ-mih

Tian-soann-phoe, kam si tian7-po3? Ma u lang kong tang5-soann3-phoe.

        On Aug 31, 2012 1:54 PM, "福當 陳"  wrote:

          Kok-ūi chiân-pòe pêng-an：

          Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, kong-goân 
          1892nî

          Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe, 
          m̄-chai tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe

          sī siáⁿ-mih, chhéng-kàu kok-ūi sian-chìn .

          Tân Hok-tong

-- 基本人權：使用母語活出台灣人ê尊嚴！ Lim Chun-iok http://sloan.fhl.net(台語點字) http://hakka.fhl.net http://taigi.fhl.net

Re: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

From:
Date: 2012-09-03 11:51:45

Chiu siàn,

Goá sī kóng goá tē-1-pái thiaⁿ-tio̍h. Goá chhiò goá ka-kī ū-kàu-sông. Hiâm che to m̄-chai!

Lí m̄-thang gō͘-hoē goá. Tâi-gú ū lán chit-tīn lâng teh-khîⁿ, teh-bán, ǹg-bāng oē-tàng ke khah chún-khak, ke tòng khah-kú ē!

Lēng-goā, chheh-tiong ê jī-kù nā lóng to bô lâng teh ēng, sī-m̄-sī ná-chhun sí-tì-sek? Boē-tàng chān-tio̍h ka-kī siáⁿ-mi̍h. Si̍t-chè seng-oa̍h tiong, kàu chit-tang-chūn, nā iáu-ū lâng ti "tiān-hé-thiāu kah tiān-pò-thiāu" kóng-chò tiān-soàⁿ-phoe. Lín án-choáⁿ siūⁿ? Giân-gú sī chin-chiàⁿ oē tè khoân-kéng kái-piàn.(Goá chiap-siū Lâu-siàn lí ê kóng-hoat.) Án-ne eng-kai to̍h tio̍h loh!

CKE

----- Original Message -----

From: 周定邦

To: Lau Seng-hian ;

Cc: Taigi_Bang

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 10:03 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

"tiān-soàⁿ-phoe" phēng "tiān-pò" khah siá-si̍t, sûi thiaⁿ tō sûi chai sī Pak-á-ōe ê "電報̀",

chit-khoán gí-sû ū tài Tâi-gí chú-thé-sèng ê su-khó, m̄-chai toh-ūi leh sông? mā m̄-chai leh sông án-choáⁿ--ê?

CTP

----- Original Message ----- 

**From:** 
Lau 
Seng-hian 

**To:**  

**Cc:** Taigi_Bang 

**Sent:** Sunday, September 02, 2012 7:12 
PM

**Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu 
tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

年歲e關係，銅線批/電線批 是清國時代e語詞，日本人來了後，真濟詞就khit hou日製漢語取代--ah，che無奇怪。

若有人超過80，koh bat ti少年時接觸著chit款hit當時kai新e科技，e khah有機會聽--著。

老台語hoan老台語，be用得用chit-ma e人做準憑。

(古早"火車"講做"火薰車"，chit-ma e人m-bat聽，m-koh，che無代表伊m-bat存在--過。)

On Sep 2, 2012 7:04 PM,  wrote:

  Kóng si̍t-chāi, kóng tiān-pò sī 
  tiān-soàⁿ-phoe, goá sī tē-1-pái khoàⁿ-tio̍h kah thiaⁿ-tio̍h.  
  Ū-kàu-sông.

  Tī goá chai-iáⁿ ū telex kah fax ê 
  chìn-cheng, lóng oē tiāⁿ-tiāⁿ thiaⁿ-tio̍h the̍h-phoe ê lâng(Iû-chhe 
  a̍h-sī Iu-chhai) tī lâng-ê mn̂g-kha-khau toā-soè-siaⁿ hiu 
  "Tiān-pò!".  M̄-pat thiaⁿ in kóng "tiān-soàⁿ-phoe".  Kiám sī 
  kan-nā goá m-pat thiaⁿ-tio̍h niā? 

  Koh pó͘-chhiong chi̍t-tiám chò 
  chham-khó:

  Kóng tiān-soàⁿ-phoe ê lâng in tùi 
  lō͘-piⁿ ê thiāu-á

  mā oē án-ne kóng

  lō͘-teng, tiān-hé-thiāu-á, 
  tiān-pò-thiāu-á.

  :)

  Kok-ūi,  Ló͘-la̍t!  Ló͘-la̍t!

  Chheh kah si̍t-bū sī 
  siáⁿ-mi̍h?

  Khì Ko-hiông chò tē-lí 
  si̍t-cha to̍h oē chai-iáⁿ sī-m̄-sī ū tîn-tâⁿ(a̍h-sī tīn-tâⁿ).

  :)

  CKE

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    **From:** Lim Chun-iok 

    **To:** Lau Seng-hian 

    **Cc:** Taigubang 

    **Sent:** Saturday, September 01, 2012 9:39 PM

    **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê  siáⁿ-mih

如附件！

    2012/9/1 Lau Seng-hian 

      唉，銅線批to有影就是"電報"，che幾若冬前LKK讀冊會就bat講--ah。

      拄chiah仔去查台日典，銅線批/電線批 攏有收，正正就是"電報"e意思無毋著。

      LKK讀冊會e老師程度是一流水(it-liu-sui)--e，伊教--阮-e，be teng-tann--啦。

      On Sep 1, 2012 7:22 PM, "andrew kuo"  wrote:
      
        Chin to-sia chit khoan e kian-kai! Goa chin ai khi 
        khoann "Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, 
        kong-goân 1892nî

        Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe"  
        tau-ti si ti sim-mih khoan e bun-meh *context)! Na m-chai hit 
        e ji-gan e "context" chiu chin khun lan koat-teng hit e jigan e 
        i-su.

        Koeh Tekliat  

        From:  To:  CC:  Subject: Re: [tgb] 
        Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 
        17:45:17 +0800

        Lāu-su-á,

        Tiān-soàⁿ-phoe sī kóng 
        lō͘-piⁿ--ê tiān-hé/hoé-thiāu-á.

        Siat-sú ū 
        chi̍t-gê lâng i teh cháu-lō͘, i m̄-ài lâng chai-iáⁿ i-ê chū-só͘, i 
        ū-lō͘-bô-chhù, ...

        Lâng mn̄g: "Lím/In tau sī toà 
        tī tó?"

        I/Lâng ìn: "Goá/I hō͘-che̍k 
        kùi/koà-tī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe!"

        Lán chá-kî lóng oē tī 
        tiān-hé-thiāu-á khoàⁿ-tio̍h:

        Téng-koân tah 
        chhē/chhoē-lâng, chhē mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, chhē káu-á, chhē niau-á, ū-chhù 
        boh/beh cho͘--lâng, ... ê kò-sī.

        Kim-êng 
        Kèng-siōng

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          **From:** Lau Seng-hian 
          
          **To:** 福當 陳 

          **Cc:**  

          **Sent:** Friday, August 31, 2012 7:21 PM

          **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
          siáⁿ-mih

Tian-soann-phoe, kam si tian7-po3? Ma u lang kong tang5-soann3-phoe.

          On Aug 31, 2012 1:54 PM, "福當 陳"  wrote:

            Kok-ūi chiân-pòe pêng-an：

            Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, kong-goân 
            1892nî

            Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe, 
            m̄-chai tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe

            sī siáⁿ-mih, chhéng-kàu kok-ūi sian-chìn .

            Tân Hok-tong

-- 基本人權：使用母語活出台灣人ê尊嚴！ Lim Chun-iok http://sloan.fhl.net(台語點字) http://hakka.fhl.net http://taigi.fhl.net

Re: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

From: 周定邦
Date: 2012-09-03 12:31:42

CKE siăn-pái, chin pháiⁿ-sè m̄-chai lí ê tōa-miâ,

chhiáⁿ iông-ún góa chi̍t-sî-te̍k án-ne kā lí chheng-ho͘.

Góa gō͘-kái lí ê ì, kā lí hōe sit-lé, chin pháiⁿ-sè.

Gí-giân ē tòe sî-kan ián-pián bô m̄-tio̍h,

m̄-koh, góa siūⁿ chit-kóa lán phàng-khìⁿ ê sû mā eng-kai kā i khioh tńg-lâi ēng,

nā-bô lóng chioh Pak-á-ōe leh ēng, án-ne Tâi-gí ē hō͘ lán ka-tī chhio̍k--sí,

che-sī góa siūⁿ beh kóng--ê, án-ne.

Chiu Tēng-pang siá

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: 周定邦

Cc: Taigi_Bang

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 11:51 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

Chiu siàn,

Goá sī kóng goá tē-1-pái thiaⁿ-tio̍h. Goá chhiò goá ka-kī ū-kàu-sông. Hiâm che to m̄-chai!

Lí m̄-thang gō͘-hoē goá. Tâi-gú ū lán chit-tīn lâng teh-khîⁿ, teh-bán, ǹg-bāng oē-tàng ke khah chún-khak, ke tòng khah-kú ē!

CKE

----- Original Message ----- 

**From:** 
周定邦 

**To:** Lau Seng-hian ;  

**Cc:** Taigi_Bang 

**Sent:** Monday, September 03, 2012 10:03 
AM

**Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu 
tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

"tiān-soàⁿ-phoe" phēng "tiān-pò" 
khah siá-si̍t, sûi thiaⁿ tō sûi chai sī Pak-á-ōe ê "電報̀",

chit-khoán gí-sû ū tài Tâi-gí 
chú-thé-sèng ê su-khó, m̄-chai toh-ūi leh sông? mā m̄-chai leh sông 
án-choáⁿ--ê?

CTP

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  **From:** 
  Lau 
  Seng-hian 

  **To:**  

  **Cc:** Taigi_Bang 

  **Sent:** Sunday, September 02, 2012 7:12 
  PM

  **Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu 
  tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

  年歲e關係，銅線批/電線批 是清國時代e語詞，日本人來了後，真濟詞就khit hou日製漢語取代--ah，che無奇怪。

  若有人超過80，koh bat ti少年時接觸著chit款hit當時kai新e科技，e khah有機會聽--著。

  老台語hoan老台語，be用得用chit-ma e人做準憑。

  (古早"火車"講做"火薰車"，chit-ma e人m-bat聽，m-koh，che無代表伊m-bat存在--過。)

  On Sep 2, 2012 7:04 PM,  wrote:
  
    Kóng si̍t-chāi, kóng tiān-pò sī 
    tiān-soàⁿ-phoe, goá sī tē-1-pái khoàⁿ-tio̍h kah thiaⁿ-tio̍h.  
    Ū-kàu-sông.

    Tī goá chai-iáⁿ ū telex kah fax ê 
    chìn-cheng, lóng oē tiāⁿ-tiāⁿ thiaⁿ-tio̍h the̍h-phoe ê lâng(Iû-chhe 
    a̍h-sī Iu-chhai) tī lâng-ê mn̂g-kha-khau toā-soè-siaⁿ hiu 
    "Tiān-pò!".  M̄-pat thiaⁿ in kóng "tiān-soàⁿ-phoe".  Kiám sī 
    kan-nā goá m-pat thiaⁿ-tio̍h niā? 

    Koh pó͘-chhiong chi̍t-tiám chò 
    chham-khó:

    Kóng tiān-soàⁿ-phoe ê lâng in tùi 
    lō͘-piⁿ ê thiāu-á

    mā oē án-ne kóng

    lō͘-teng, tiān-hé-thiāu-á, 
    tiān-pò-thiāu-á.

    :)

    Kok-ūi,  Ló͘-la̍t!  Ló͘-la̍t!

    Chheh kah si̍t-bū sī 
    siáⁿ-mi̍h?

    Khì Ko-hiông chò tē-lí 
    si̍t-cha to̍h oē chai-iáⁿ sī-m̄-sī ū tîn-tâⁿ(a̍h-sī tīn-tâⁿ).

    :)

    CKE

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      **From:** Lim Chun-iok 
      
      **To:** Lau Seng-hian 

      **Cc:** Taigubang 

      **Sent:** Saturday, September 01, 2012 9:39 PM

      **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
      siáⁿ-mih

如附件！

      2012/9/1 Lau Seng-hian 

        唉，銅線批to有影就是"電報"，che幾若冬前LKK讀冊會就bat講--ah。

        拄chiah仔去查台日典，銅線批/電線批 攏有收，正正就是"電報"e意思無毋著。

        LKK讀冊會e老師程度是一流水(it-liu-sui)--e，伊教--阮-e，be teng-tann--啦。

        On Sep 1, 2012 7:22 PM, "andrew kuo"  wrote:
        
          Chin to-sia chit khoan e kian-kai! Goa chin ai khi 
          khoann "Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, 
          kong-goân 1892nî

          Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe"  
          tau-ti si ti sim-mih khoan e bun-meh *context)! Na m-chai hit 
          e ji-gan e "context" chiu chin khun lan koat-teng hit e jigan 
          e i-su.

          Koeh Tekliat  

          From:  To:  CC:  Subject: Re: [tgb] 
          Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 
          17:45:17 +0800

          Lāu-su-á,

          Tiān-soàⁿ-phoe sī kóng 
          lō͘-piⁿ--ê tiān-hé/hoé-thiāu-á.

          Siat-sú ū 
          chi̍t-gê lâng i teh cháu-lō͘, i m̄-ài lâng chai-iáⁿ i-ê chū-só͘, i 
          ū-lō͘-bô-chhù, ...

          Lâng mn̄g: "Lím/In tau sī 
          toà tī tó?"

          I/Lâng ìn: "Goá/I hō͘-che̍k 
          kùi/koà-tī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe!"

          Lán chá-kî lóng oē tī 
          tiān-hé-thiāu-á khoàⁿ-tio̍h:

          Téng-koân tah 
          chhē/chhoē-lâng, chhē mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, chhē káu-á, chhē niau-á, ū-chhù 
          boh/beh cho͘--lâng, ... ê kò-sī.

          Kim-êng 
          Kèng-siōng

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            **From:** Lau Seng-hian 
            
            **To:** 福當 陳 
            
            **Cc:**  

            **Sent:** Friday, August 31, 2012 7:21 PM

            **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
            siáⁿ-mih

Tian-soann-phoe, kam si tian7-po3? Ma u lang kong tang5-soann3-phoe.

            On Aug 31, 2012 1:54 PM, "福當 陳"  wrote:

              Kok-ūi chiân-pòe pêng-an：

              Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, kong-goân 
              1892nî

              Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe, 
              m̄-chai tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe

              sī siáⁿ-mih, chhéng-kàu kok-ūi sian-chìn .

              Tân Hok-tong

-- 基本人權：使用母語活出台灣人ê尊嚴！ Lim Chun-iok http://sloan.fhl.net(台語點字) http://hakka.fhl.net http://taigi.fhl.net

Re: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

From: Lim Jukhai
Date: 2012-09-03 16:58:25

Tiān-pò, tiān-pò-thiāu lóng sī Ji̍t-pún ōe ê khóan.Tiān-sòaⁿ, mā sī lioh… ha ha ha

Khai

周定邦於 2012年9月3日下午12:31 寫道：

CKE siăn-pái, chin pháiⁿ-sè m̄-chai lí ê tōa-miâ,

chhiáⁿ iông-ún góa chi̍t-sî-te̍k án-ne kā lí chheng-ho͘.

Góa gō͘-kái lí ê ì, kā lí hōe sit-lé, chin pháiⁿ-sè.

Gí-giân ē tòe sî-kan ián-pián bô m̄-tio̍h,

m̄-koh, góa siūⁿ chit-kóa lán phàng-khìⁿ ê sû mā eng-kai kā i khioh tńg-lâi ēng,

nā-bô lóng chioh Pak-á-ōe leh ēng, án-ne Tâi-gí ē hō͘ lán ka-tī chhio̍k--sí,

che-sī góa siūⁿ beh kóng--ê, án-ne.

Chiu Tēng-pang siá

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: 周定邦

Cc: Taigi_Bang

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 11:51 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

Chiu siàn,

Goá sī kóng goá tē-1-pái thiaⁿ-tio̍h. Goá chhiò goá ka-kī ū-kàu-sông. Hiâm che to m̄-chai!

Lí m̄-thang gō͘-hoē goá. Tâi-gú ū lán chit-tīn lâng teh-khîⁿ, teh-bán, ǹg-bāng oē-tàng ke khah chún-khak, ke tòng khah-kú ē!

CKE

----- Original Message ----- 

**From:** 
周定邦 

**To:** Lau Seng-hian ;  

**Cc:** Taigi_Bang 

**Sent:** Monday, September 03, 2012 10:03 
AM

**Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu 
tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

"tiān-soàⁿ-phoe" phēng "tiān-pò" 
khah siá-si̍t, sûi thiaⁿ tō sûi chai sī Pak-á-ōe ê "電報̀",

chit-khoán gí-sû ū tài Tâi-gí 
chú-thé-sèng ê su-khó, m̄-chai toh-ūi leh sông? mā m̄-chai leh sông 
án-choáⁿ--ê?

CTP

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  **From:** 
  Lau 
  Seng-hian 

  **To:**  

  **Cc:** Taigi_Bang 

  **Sent:** Sunday, September 02, 2012 7:12 
  PM

  **Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu 
  tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

  年歲e關係，銅線批/電線批 是清國時代e語詞，日本人來了後，真濟詞就khit hou日製漢語取代--ah，che無奇怪。

  若有人超過80，koh bat ti少年時接觸著chit款hit當時kai新e科技，e khah有機會聽--著。

  老台語hoan老台語，be用得用chit-ma e人做準憑。

  (古早"火車"講做"火薰車"，chit-ma e人m-bat聽，m-koh，che無代表伊m-bat存在--過。)

  On Sep 2, 2012 7:04 PM,  wrote:
  
    Kóng si̍t-chāi, kóng tiān-pò sī 
    tiān-soàⁿ-phoe, goá sī tē-1-pái khoàⁿ-tio̍h kah thiaⁿ-tio̍h.  
    Ū-kàu-sông.

    Tī goá chai-iáⁿ ū telex kah fax ê 
    chìn-cheng, lóng oē tiāⁿ-tiāⁿ thiaⁿ-tio̍h the̍h-phoe ê lâng(Iû-chhe 
    a̍h-sī Iu-chhai) tī lâng-ê mn̂g-kha-khau toā-soè-siaⁿ hiu 
    "Tiān-pò!".  M̄-pat thiaⁿ in kóng "tiān-soàⁿ-phoe".  Kiám sī 
    kan-nā goá m-pat thiaⁿ-tio̍h niā? 

    Koh pó͘-chhiong chi̍t-tiám chò 
    chham-khó:

    Kóng tiān-soàⁿ-phoe ê lâng in tùi 
    lō͘-piⁿ ê thiāu-á

    mā oē án-ne kóng

    lō͘-teng, tiān-hé-thiāu-á, 
    tiān-pò-thiāu-á.

    :)

    Kok-ūi,  Ló͘-la̍t!  Ló͘-la̍t!

    Chheh kah si̍t-bū sī 
    siáⁿ-mi̍h?

    Khì Ko-hiông chò tē-lí 
    si̍t-cha to̍h oē chai-iáⁿ sī-m̄-sī ū tîn-tâⁿ(a̍h-sī tīn-tâⁿ).

    :)

    CKE

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      **From:** Lim Chun-iok 
      
      **To:** Lau Seng-hian 

      **Cc:** Taigubang 

      **Sent:** Saturday, September 01, 2012 9:39 PM

      **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
      siáⁿ-mih

如附件！

      2012/9/1 Lau Seng-hian 

        唉，銅線批to有影就是"電報"，che幾若冬前LKK讀冊會就bat講--ah。

        拄chiah仔去查台日典，銅線批/電線批 攏有收，正正就是"電報"e意思無毋著。

        LKK讀冊會e老師程度是一流水(it-liu-sui)--e，伊教--阮-e，be teng-tann--啦。

        On Sep 1, 2012 7:22 PM, "andrew kuo"  wrote:
        
          Chin to-sia chit khoan e kian-kai! Goa chin ai khi 
          khoann "Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, 
          kong-goân 1892nî

          Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe"  
          tau-ti si ti sim-mih khoan e bun-meh *context)! Na m-chai hit 
          e ji-gan e "context" chiu chin khun lan koat-teng hit e jigan 
          e i-su.

          Koeh Tekliat  

          From:  To:  CC:

Subject: Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 17:45:17 +0800

          Lāu-su-á,

          Tiān-soàⁿ-phoe sī kóng 
          lō͘-piⁿ--ê tiān-hé/hoé-thiāu-á.

          Siat-sú ū 
          chi̍t-gê lâng i teh cháu-lō͘, i m̄-ài lâng chai-iáⁿ i-ê chū-só͘, i 
          ū-lō͘-bô-chhù, ...

          Lâng mn̄g: "Lím/In tau sī 
          toà tī tó?"

          I/Lâng ìn: "Goá/I hō͘-che̍k 
          kùi/koà-tī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe!"

          Lán chá-kî lóng oē tī 
          tiān-hé-thiāu-á khoàⁿ-tio̍h:

          Téng-koân tah 
          chhē/chhoē-lâng, chhē mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, chhē káu-á, chhē niau-á, ū-chhù 
          boh/beh cho͘--lâng, ... ê kò-sī.

          Kim-êng 
          Kèng-siōng

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            **From:** Lau Seng-hian 
            
            **To:** 福當 陳 
            
            **Cc:**  

            **Sent:** Friday, August 31, 2012 7:21 PM

            **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
            siáⁿ-mih

Tian-soann-phoe, kam si tian7-po3? Ma u lang kong tang5-soann3-phoe.

            On Aug 31, 2012 1:54 PM, "福當 陳"  wrote:

              Kok-ūi chiân-pòe pêng-an：

              Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, kong-goân 
              1892nî

              Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe, 
              m̄-chai tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe

              sī siáⁿ-mih, chhéng-kàu kok-ūi sian-chìn .

              Tân Hok-tong

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Re: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

From: Lim Chun-iok
Date: 2012-09-03 21:29:48

大家,平安

真歡喜！大家熱烈討論，台語網本底to̍h是咱台語ê討論平台。

咱失落ê台語拾tńg來用mā是真好！我翻譯《台日大辭典》發現「山球」=golf=go͘-lu-huh=高爾夫，附件請參考指教。

Chùn-io̍k

2012/9/3 Lim Jukhai

Tiān-pò, tiān-pò-thiāu lóng sī Ji̍t-pún ōe ê khóan.Tiān-sòaⁿ, mā sī lioh… ha ha ha

Khai

周定邦於 2012年9月3日下午12:31 寫道：

CKE siăn-pái, chin pháiⁿ-sè m̄-chai lí ê tōa-miâ,

chhiáⁿ iông-ún góa chi̍t-sî-te̍k án-ne kā lí chheng-ho͘.

Góa gō͘-kái lí ê ì, kā lí hōe sit-lé, chin pháiⁿ-sè.

Gí-giân ē tòe sî-kan ián-pián bô m̄-tio̍h,

m̄-koh, góa siūⁿ chit-kóa lán phàng-khìⁿ ê sû mā eng-kai kā i khioh tńg-lâi ēng,

nā-bô lóng chioh Pak-á-ōe leh ēng, án-ne Tâi-gí ē hō͘ lán ka-tī chhio̍k--sí,

che-sī góa siūⁿ beh kóng--ê, án-ne.

Chiu Tēng-pang siá

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: 周定邦

Cc: Taigi_Bang

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 11:51 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

Chiu siàn,

Goá sī kóng goá tē-1-pái thiaⁿ-tio̍h. Goá chhiò goá ka-kī ū-kàu-sông. Hiâm che to m̄-chai!

Lí m̄-thang gō͘-hoē goá. Tâi-gú ū lán chit-tīn lâng teh-khîⁿ, teh-bán, ǹg-bāng oē-tàng ke khah chún-khak, ke tòng khah-kú ē!

CKE

----- Original Message ----- 

**From:** 
周定邦 

**To:** Lau Seng-hian ;  

**Cc:** Taigi_Bang 

**Sent:** Monday, September 03, 2012 10:03 
AM

**Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu 
tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

"tiān-soàⁿ-phoe" phēng "tiān-pò" 
khah siá-si̍t, sûi thiaⁿ tō sûi chai sī Pak-á-ōe ê "電報̀",

chit-khoán gí-sû ū tài Tâi-gí 
chú-thé-sèng ê su-khó, m̄-chai toh-ūi leh sông? mā m̄-chai leh sông 
án-choáⁿ--ê?

CTP

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  **From:** 
  Lau 
  Seng-hian 

  **To:**  

  **Cc:** Taigi_Bang 

  **Sent:** Sunday, September 02, 2012 7:12 
  PM

  **Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu 
  tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

  年歲e關係，銅線批/電線批 是清國時代e語詞，日本人來了後，真濟詞就khit hou日製漢語取代--ah，che無奇怪。

  若有人超過80，koh bat ti少年時接觸著chit款hit當時kai新e科技，e khah有機會聽--著。

  老台語hoan老台語，be用得用chit-ma e人做準憑。

  (古早"火車"講做"火薰車"，chit-ma e人m-bat聽，m-koh，che無代表伊m-bat存在--過。)

  On Sep 2, 2012 7:04 PM,  wrote:
  
    Kóng si̍t-chāi, kóng tiān-pò sī 
    tiān-soàⁿ-phoe, goá sī tē-1-pái khoàⁿ-tio̍h kah thiaⁿ-tio̍h.  
    Ū-kàu-sông.

    Tī goá chai-iáⁿ ū telex kah fax ê 
    chìn-cheng, lóng oē tiāⁿ-tiāⁿ thiaⁿ-tio̍h the̍h-phoe ê lâng(Iû-chhe 
    a̍h-sī Iu-chhai) tī lâng-ê mn̂g-kha-khau toā-soè-siaⁿ hiu 
    "Tiān-pò!".  M̄-pat thiaⁿ in kóng "tiān-soàⁿ-phoe".  Kiám sī 
    kan-nā goá m-pat thiaⁿ-tio̍h niā? 

    Koh pó͘-chhiong chi̍t-tiám chò 
    chham-khó:

    Kóng tiān-soàⁿ-phoe ê lâng in tùi 
    lō͘-piⁿ ê thiāu-á

    mā oē án-ne kóng

    lō͘-teng, tiān-hé-thiāu-á, 
    tiān-pò-thiāu-á.

    :)

    Kok-ūi,  Ló͘-la̍t!  Ló͘-la̍t!

    Chheh kah si̍t-bū sī 
    siáⁿ-mi̍h?

    Khì Ko-hiông chò tē-lí 
    si̍t-cha to̍h oē chai-iáⁿ sī-m̄-sī ū tîn-tâⁿ(a̍h-sī tīn-tâⁿ).

    :)

    CKE

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      **From:** Lim Chun-iok 
      
      **To:** Lau Seng-hian 

      **Cc:** Taigubang 

      **Sent:** Saturday, September 01, 2012 9:39 PM

      **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
      siáⁿ-mih

如附件！

      2012/9/1 Lau Seng-hian 

        唉，銅線批to有影就是"電報"，che幾若冬前LKK讀冊會就bat講--ah。

        拄chiah仔去查台日典，銅線批/電線批 攏有收，正正就是"電報"e意思無毋著。

        LKK讀冊會e老師程度是一流水(it-liu-sui)--e，伊教--阮-e，be teng-tann--啦。

        On Sep 1, 2012 7:22 PM, "andrew kuo"  wrote:
        
          Chin to-sia chit khoan e kian-kai! Goa chin ai khi 
          khoann "Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, 
          kong-goân 1892nî

          Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe"  
          tau-ti si ti sim-mih khoan e bun-meh *context)! Na m-chai hit 
          e ji-gan e "context" chiu chin khun lan koat-teng hit e jigan 
          e i-su.

          Koeh Tekliat  

          From:  To:  CC:

Subject: Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 17:45:17 +0800

          Lāu-su-á,

          Tiān-soàⁿ-phoe sī kóng 
          lō͘-piⁿ--ê tiān-hé/hoé-thiāu-á.

          Siat-sú ū 
          chi̍t-gê lâng i teh cháu-lō͘, i m̄-ài lâng chai-iáⁿ i-ê chū-só͘, i 
          ū-lō͘-bô-chhù, ...

          Lâng mn̄g: "Lím/In tau sī 
          toà tī tó?"

          I/Lâng ìn: "Goá/I hō͘-che̍k 
          kùi/koà-tī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe!"

          Lán chá-kî lóng oē tī 
          tiān-hé-thiāu-á khoàⁿ-tio̍h:

          Téng-koân tah 
          chhē/chhoē-lâng, chhē mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, chhē káu-á, chhē niau-á, ū-chhù 
          boh/beh cho͘--lâng, ... ê kò-sī.

          Kim-êng 
          Kèng-siōng

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            **From:** Lau Seng-hian 
            
            **To:** 福當 陳 
            
            **Cc:**  

            **Sent:** Friday, August 31, 2012 7:21 PM

            **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
            siáⁿ-mih

Tian-soann-phoe, kam si tian7-po3? Ma u lang kong tang5-soann3-phoe.

            On Aug 31, 2012 1:54 PM, "福當 陳"  wrote:

              Kok-ūi chiân-pòe pêng-an：

              Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, kong-goân 
              1892nî

              Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe, 
              m̄-chai tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe

              sī siáⁿ-mih, chhéng-kàu kok-ūi sian-chìn .

              Tân Hok-tong

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Re: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

From: Bu gi-ian(巫義淵)
Date: 2012-09-03 22:38:35

林長老平安大家平安 !

其實有真濟句讀早期ma7是對福建傳過來的。

請參考附檔案

Bugiian

----- Original Message -----

From: Lim Chun-iok

To: Lim Jukhai

Cc: Taigi_Bang

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 9:29 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

大家,平安

真歡喜！大家熱烈討論，台語網本底to̍h是咱台語ê討論平台。

咱失落ê台語拾tńg來用mā是真好！我翻譯《台日大辭典》發現「山球」=golf=go͘-lu-huh=高爾夫，附件請參考指教。

Chùn-io̍k

2012/9/3 Lim Jukhai

Tiān-pò, tiān-pò-thiāu lóng sī Ji̍t-pún ōe ê khóan. Tiān-sòaⁿ, mā sī lioh… ha ha ha

Khai

周定邦  於 2012年9月3日下午12:31 寫道：

  CKE siăn-pái, chin pháiⁿ-sè 
  m̄-chai lí ê tōa-miâ, 

  chhiáⁿ iông-ún góa 
  chi̍t-sî-te̍k án-ne kā lí chheng-ho͘.

  Góa gō͘-kái lí ê ì, kā lí 
  hōe sit-lé, chin pháiⁿ-sè.

  Gí-giân ē tòe sî-kan 
  ián-pián bô m̄-tio̍h,

  m̄-koh, góa siūⁿ chit-kóa lán 
  phàng-khìⁿ ê sû mā eng-kai kā i khioh tńg-lâi ēng,

  nā-bô lóng chioh Pak-á-ōe leh 
  ēng, án-ne Tâi-gí ē hō͘ lán ka-tī chhio̍k--sí,

  che-sī góa siūⁿ beh kóng--ê, 
  án-ne.

  Chiu Tēng-pang siá

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    **From:**  
    
    **To:** 周定邦 

    **Cc:** Taigi_Bang 
    
    **Sent:** Monday, September 03, 2012 11:51 AM

    **Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
    siáⁿ-mih

    Chiu siàn,

    :)

    Goá sī kóng goá tē-1-pái 
    thiaⁿ-tio̍h.  Goá chhiò goá ka-kī ū-kàu-sông.  Hiâm che to 
    m̄-chai!

    Lí m̄-thang gō͘-hoē 
    goá.  Tâi-gú ū lán chit-tīn lâng teh-khîⁿ, teh-bán, 
    ǹg-bāng oē-tàng ke khah chún-khak, ke tòng khah-kú ē!

    Lēng-goā, chheh-tiong ê jī-kù nā lóng to bô lâng teh ēng, 
    sī-m̄-sī ná-chhun sí-tì-sek?  Boē-tàng chān-tio̍h ka-kī 
    siáⁿ-mi̍h.  Si̍t-chè seng-oa̍h tiong, kàu chit-tang-chūn, nā 
    iáu-ū lâng ti "tiān-hé-thiāu kah tiān-pò-thiāu" kóng-chò 
    tiān-soàⁿ-phoe.  Lín án-choáⁿ siūⁿ?  Giân-gú sī 
    chin-chiàⁿ oē tè khoân-kéng kái-piàn.(Goá chiap-siū Lâu-siàn lí ê 
    kóng-hoat.)  Án-ne eng-kai to̍h tio̍h loh!

    CKE

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      **From:** 周定邦 

      **To:** Lau Seng-hian ;  

      **Cc:** Taigi_Bang 
      
      **Sent:** Monday, September 03, 2012 10:03 AM

      **Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
      siáⁿ-mih

      "tiān-soàⁿ-phoe" phēng 
      "tiān-pò" khah siá-si̍t, sûi thiaⁿ tō sûi chai sī Pak-á-ōe ê "電報̀",

      chit-khoán gí-sû ū tài 
      Tâi-gí chú-thé-sèng ê su-khó, m̄-chai toh-ūi leh sông? mā 
      m̄-chai leh sông án-choáⁿ--ê?

      CTP

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        **From:** Lau Seng-hian 
        
        **To:**  

        **Cc:** Taigi_Bang 
        
        **Sent:** Sunday, September 02, 2012 7:12 PM

        **Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
        siáⁿ-mih

        年歲e關係，銅線批/電線批 是清國時代e語詞，日本人來了後，真濟詞就khit hou日製漢語取代--ah，che無奇怪。

        若有人超過80，koh bat ti少年時接觸著chit款hit當時kai新e科技，e khah有機會聽--著。

        老台語hoan老台語，be用得用chit-ma e人做準憑。

        (古早"火車"講做"火薰車"，chit-ma e人m-bat聽，m-koh，che無代表伊m-bat存在--過。)

        On Sep 2, 2012 7:04 PM,  wrote:
        
          Kóng si̍t-chāi, kóng 
          tiān-pò sī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe, goá sī tē-1-pái khoàⁿ-tio̍h kah 
          thiaⁿ-tio̍h.  Ū-kàu-sông.

          Tī goá chai-iáⁿ ū telex kah 
          fax ê chìn-cheng, lóng oē tiāⁿ-tiāⁿ thiaⁿ-tio̍h the̍h-phoe ê 
          lâng(Iû-chhe a̍h-sī Iu-chhai) tī lâng-ê mn̂g-kha-khau 
          toā-soè-siaⁿ hiu "Tiān-pò!".  M̄-pat thiaⁿ in kóng 
          "tiān-soàⁿ-phoe".  Kiám sī kan-nā goá m-pat thiaⁿ-tio̍h 
          niā? 

          Koh pó͘-chhiong chi̍t-tiám 
          chò chham-khó:

          Kóng tiān-soàⁿ-phoe ê lâng 
          in tùi lō͘-piⁿ ê thiāu-á

          mā oē án-ne 
          kóng

          lō͘-teng, tiān-hé-thiāu-á, 
          tiān-pò-thiāu-á.

          :)

          Kok-ūi,  Ló͘-la̍t!  Ló͘-la̍t!

          Chheh kah si̍t-bū sī 
          siáⁿ-mi̍h?

          Khì Ko-hiông chò tē-lí 
          si̍t-cha to̍h oē chai-iáⁿ sī-m̄-sī ū tîn-tâⁿ(a̍h-sī tīn-tâⁿ).

          :)

          CKE

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            **From:** Lim 
            Chun-iok 

            **To:** Lau Seng-hian 
            
            **Cc:** Taigubang 
            
            **Sent:** Saturday, September 01, 2012 9:39 PM

            **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
            siáⁿ-mih

如附件！

            2012/9/1 Lau Seng-hian 

              唉，銅線批to有影就是"電報"，che幾若冬前LKK讀冊會就bat講--ah。

              拄chiah仔去查台日典，銅線批/電線批 攏有收，正正就是"電報"e意思無毋著。

              LKK讀冊會e老師程度是一流水(it-liu-sui)--e，伊教--阮-e，be teng-tann--啦。

              On Sep 1, 2012 7:22 PM, "andrew kuo" 
               wrote:
              
                Chin to-sia chit khoan e kian-kai! Goa chin ai 
                khi khoann "Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 
                goe̍h, kong-goân 1892nî

                Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h 
                tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe"  tau-ti si ti sim-mih khoan e bun-meh 
                *context)! Na m-chai hit e ji-gan e "context" chiu chin 
                khun lan koat-teng hit e jigan e i-su.

                Koeh Tekliat  

                From:  To:  CC:  Subject: Re: 
                [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih Date: Sat, 1 
                Sep 2012 17:45:17 +0800

                Lāu-su-á,

                Tiān-soàⁿ-phoe sī 
                kóng lō͘-piⁿ--ê tiān-hé/hoé-thiāu-á.

                Siat-sú 
                ū chi̍t-gê lâng i teh cháu-lō͘, i m̄-ài lâng chai-iáⁿ i-ê 
                chū-só͘, i ū-lō͘-bô-chhù, ...

                Lâng mn̄g: "Lím/In 
                tau sī toà tī tó?"

                I/Lâng ìn: "Goá/I 
                hō͘-che̍k kùi/koà-tī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe!"

                Lán chá-kî lóng oē tī 
                tiān-hé-thiāu-á khoàⁿ-tio̍h:

                Téng-koân tah 
                chhē/chhoē-lâng, chhē mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, chhē káu-á, chhē niau-á, 
                ū-chhù boh/beh cho͘--lâng, ... ê kò-sī.

                Kim-êng 
                Kèng-siōng

                  ----- Original Message ----- 

                  **From:** Lau 
                  Seng-hian 

                  **To:** 福當 
                  陳 

                  **Cc:**  

                  **Sent:** Friday, August 31, 2012 7:21 PM

                  **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
                  siáⁿ-mih

Tian-soann-phoe, kam si tian7-po3? Ma u lang kong tang5-soann3-phoe.

                  On Aug 31, 2012 1:54 PM, "福當 陳"  wrote:

                    Kok-ūi chiân-pòe pêng-an：

                    Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, 
                    kong-goân 1892nî

                    Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h 
                    tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe, m̄-chai tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe

                    sī siáⁿ-mih, chhéng-kàu kok-ūi sian-chìn .

                    Tân Hok-tong

-- 基本人權：使用母語活出台灣人ê尊嚴！ Lim Chun-iok http://sloan.fhl.net(台語點字) http://hakka.fhl.net http://taigi.fhl.net

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Re: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

From:
Date: 2012-09-04 12:49:11

Chit-hāng tāi-chì kài-sêng sī án-ne:

Seng-sī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe.

Soà--lo̍h-lâi sī tiān-pò.

Chit-má iáu-ū chin-choē lâng ti "tiān-hé-thiāu kah tiān-pò-thiāu" kóng-chò tiān-soàⁿ-phoe.

Goá chit-kúi-kang ūi-tio̍h sīn-tiōng, khà tiān-oē hō͘ chia kóng tiān-soàⁿ-phoe ê lâng kiû-chèng, koh tit-tio̍h chia-lâng mā lóng í-keng tè sî-tāi, ū teh kóng tiān-hé-thiāu kah tiān-pò-thiāu.

Gú-giân oē tè khoân-kéng piàn-hoà.

Chit-má ū chin-choē siâⁿ-chhī tiān-soàⁿ tē-hā-hoà, í-keng ti tiān-hé-thiāu kah tiān-pò-thiāu poe̍h-tiāu.

Tiàm tiān-hé-thiāu tah kò-sī, nā khì-hō͘ khoân-pó-kio̍k hip-siōng khì, oē hoa̍t chin-choē chîⁿ.

Seng-oa̍h, thong-sìn lóng jú-piàn-jú-kín, jú-toā. Chia gú-sû mā-sī toè sî-tāi teh kiâⁿ. Āu-kang nā kóng-tio̍h "Hō͘-che̍k kùi-tī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe.", "Hō͘-kháu koà-tī tiān-hé-thāu." , eng-kai ài poâⁿ chia-oē hō͘ lâng thiaⁿ.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bu gi-ian(巫義淵)

To: Lim Chun-iok ; Lim Jukhai

Cc: Taigi_Bang

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 10:38 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

林長老平安大家平安 !

其實有真濟句讀早期ma7是對福建傳過來的。

請參考附檔案

Bugiian

----- Original Message ----- 

**From:** 
Lim 
Chun-iok 

**To:** Lim Jukhai 

**Cc:** Taigi_Bang 

**Sent:** Monday, September 03, 2012 9:29 
PM

**Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu 
tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih

大家,平安

真歡喜！大家熱烈討論，台語網本底to̍h是咱台語ê討論平台。

咱失落ê台語拾tńg來用mā是真好！我翻譯《台日大辭典》發現「山球」=golf=go͘-lu-huh=高爾夫，附件請參考指教。

Chùn-io̍k

2012/9/3 Lim Jukhai 

Tiān-pò, tiān-pò-thiāu lóng sī 
  Ji̍t-pún ōe ê khóan. 
  Tiān-sòaⁿ, mā sī lioh... 
  ha ha ha

  Khai

  周定邦  於 2012年9月3日下午12:31 寫道： 

    CKE siăn-pái, chin pháiⁿ-sè 
    m̄-chai lí ê tōa-miâ, 

    chhiáⁿ iông-ún góa 
    chi̍t-sî-te̍k án-ne kā lí chheng-ho͘.

    Góa gō͘-kái lí ê ì, kā lí 
    hōe sit-lé, chin pháiⁿ-sè.

    Gí-giân ē tòe sî-kan 
    ián-pián bô m̄-tio̍h,

    m̄-koh, góa siūⁿ chit-kóa lán 
    phàng-khìⁿ ê sû mā eng-kai kā i khioh tńg-lâi ēng,

    nā-bô lóng chioh Pak-á-ōe 
    leh ēng, án-ne Tâi-gí ē hō͘ lán ka-tī chhio̍k--sí,

    che-sī góa siūⁿ beh kóng--ê, 
    án-ne.

    Chiu Tēng-pang siá

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      **From:**  

      **To:** 周定邦 

      **Cc:** Taigi_Bang 
      
      **Sent:** Monday, September 03, 2012 11:51 AM

      **Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
      siáⁿ-mih

      Chiu siàn,

      :)

      Goá sī kóng goá tē-1-pái 
      thiaⁿ-tio̍h.  Goá chhiò goá ka-kī ū-kàu-sông.  Hiâm che to 
      m̄-chai!

      Lí m̄-thang gō͘-hoē 
      goá.  Tâi-gú ū lán chit-tīn lâng teh-khîⁿ, teh-bán, 
      ǹg-bāng oē-tàng ke khah chún-khak, ke tòng khah-kú  ē!

      Lēng-goā, chheh-tiong ê jī-kù nā lóng to bô lâng teh 
      ēng, sī-m̄-sī ná-chhun sí-tì-sek?  Boē-tàng chān-tio̍h ka-kī 
      siáⁿ-mi̍h.  Si̍t-chè seng-oa̍h tiong, kàu chit-tang-chūn, nā 
      iáu-ū lâng ti "tiān-hé-thiāu kah tiān-pò-thiāu" kóng-chò 
      tiān-soàⁿ-phoe.  Lín án-choáⁿ siūⁿ?  Giân-gú sī 
      chin-chiàⁿ oē tè khoân-kéng kái-piàn.(Goá chiap-siū Lâu-siàn lí ê 
      kóng-hoat.)  Án-ne eng-kai to̍h tio̍h loh!

      CKE

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        **From:** 周定邦 

        **To:** Lau Seng-hian ; 
         
        **Cc:** Taigi_Bang 
        
        **Sent:** Monday, September 03, 2012 10:03 AM

        **Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
        siáⁿ-mih

        "tiān-soàⁿ-phoe" phēng 
        "tiān-pò" khah siá-si̍t, sûi thiaⁿ tō sûi chai sī 
        Pak-á-ōe ê 
        "電報̀",

        chit-khoán gí-sû ū tài 
        Tâi-gí chú-thé-sèng ê su-khó, m̄-chai toh-ūi leh sông? mā 
        m̄-chai leh sông án-choáⁿ--ê?

        CTP

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          **From:** Lau Seng-hian 
          
          **To:**  

          **Cc:** Taigi_Bang 
          
          **Sent:** Sunday, September 02, 2012 7:12 PM

          **Subject:** Re: Fw: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
          siáⁿ-mih

          年歲e關係，銅線批/電線批 是清國時代e語詞，日本人來了後，真濟詞就khit  hou日製漢語取代--ah，che無奇怪。

          若有人超過80，koh bat ti少年時接觸著chit款hit當時kai新e科技，e khah有機會聽--著。

          老台語hoan老台語，be用得用chit-ma e人做準憑。

          (古早"火車"講做"火薰車"，chit-ma e人m-bat聽，m-koh，che無代表伊m-bat存在--過。)

          On Sep 2, 2012 7:04 PM,  wrote:
          
            Kóng si̍t-chāi, kóng 
            tiān-pò sī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe, goá sī tē-1-pái khoàⁿ-tio̍h kah 
            thiaⁿ-tio̍h.  Ū-kàu-sông.

            Tī goá chai-iáⁿ ū telex 
            kah fax ê chìn-cheng, lóng oē tiāⁿ-tiāⁿ thiaⁿ-tio̍h the̍h-phoe ê 
            lâng(Iû-chhe a̍h-sī Iu-chhai) tī lâng-ê mn̂g-kha-khau 
            toā-soè-siaⁿ hiu "Tiān-pò!".  M̄-pat thiaⁿ in kóng 
            "tiān-soàⁿ-phoe".  Kiám sī kan-nā goá m-pat thiaⁿ-tio̍h 
            niā? 

            Koh pó͘-chhiong 
            chi̍t-tiám chò chham-khó:

            Kóng tiān-soàⁿ-phoe ê 
            lâng in tùi lō͘-piⁿ ê thiāu-á

            mā oē án-ne 
            kóng

            lō͘-teng, 
            tiān-hé-thiāu-á, tiān-pò-thiāu-á.

            :)

            Kok-ūi,  
            Ló͘-la̍t!  
            Ló͘-la̍t!

            Chheh kah si̍t-bū sī 
            siáⁿ-mi̍h?

            Khì Ko-hiông chò tē-lí 
            si̍t-cha to̍h oē chai-iáⁿ sī-m̄-sī ū tîn-tâⁿ(a̍h-sī 
            tīn-tâⁿ).

            :)

            CKE

              ----- Original Message ----- 

              **From:** Lim 
              Chun-iok 

              **To:** Lau 
              Seng-hian 

              **Cc:** Taigubang 

              **Sent:** Saturday, September 01, 2012 9:39 PM

              **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê 
              siáⁿ-mih

如附件！

              2012/9/1 Lau Seng-hian 

                唉，銅線批to有影就是"電報"，che幾若冬前LKK讀冊會就bat講--ah。

                拄chiah仔去查台日典，銅線批/電線批 攏有收，正正就是"電報"e意思無毋著。

                LKK讀冊會e老師程度是一流水(it-liu-sui)--e，伊教--阮-e，be 
                teng-tann--啦。

                On Sep 1, 2012 7:22 PM, "andrew kuo" 
                 wrote:
                
                  Chin to-sia chit khoan e kian-kai! Goa chin 
                  ai khi khoann "Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 
                  6 goe̍h, kong-goân 1892nî

                  Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h 
                  tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe"  tau-ti si ti sim-mih khoan e bun-meh 
                  *context)! Na m-chai hit e ji-gan e "context" chiu 
                  chin khun lan koat-teng hit e jigan e i-su.

                  Koeh Tekliat  

                  From:  To:  CC:  Subject: Re: 
                  [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe ê siáⁿ-mih Date: Sat, 1 
                  Sep 2012 17:45:17 +0800

                  Lāu-su-á,

                  Tiān-soàⁿ-phoe sī 
                  kóng lō͘-piⁿ--ê tiān-hé/hoé-thiāu-á.

                  Siat-sú ū chi̍t-gê lâng i teh cháu-lō͘, i m̄-ài 
                  lâng chai-iáⁿ i-ê chū-só͘, i ū-lō͘-bô-chhù, 
                  ...

                  Lâng mn̄g: "Lím/In 
                  tau sī toà tī tó?"

                  I/Lâng ìn: "Goá/I 
                  hō͘-che̍k kùi/koà-tī tiān-soàⁿ-phoe!"

                  Lán chá-kî lóng oē 
                  tī tiān-hé-thiāu-á khoàⁿ-tio̍h:

                  Téng-koân tah 
                  chhē/chhoē-lâng, chhē mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, chhē káu-á, chhē niau-á, 
                  ū-chhù boh/beh cho͘--lâng, ... ê kò-sī.

                  Kim-êng 
                  Kèng-siōng

                    ----- Original Message ----- 

                    **From:** Lau 
                    Seng-hian 

                    **To:** 福當 
                    陳 

                    **Cc:**  

                    **Sent:** Friday, August 31, 2012 7:21 PM

                    **Subject:** Re: [tgb] Chhéng-kàu tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe 
                    ê siáⁿ-mih

Tian-soann-phoe, kam si tian7-po3? Ma u lang kong tang5-soann3-phoe.

                    On Aug 31, 2012 1:54 PM, "福當 陳"  wrote:

                      Kok-ūi chiân-pòe pêng-an：

                      Tâi-lâm-hú kàu-hōe-pò 86koàn, kong-sū 18nî 6 goe̍h, 
                      kong-goân 1892nî

                      Lô͘-i-seng chit-ê piau-tê ū kóng-tio̍h 
                      tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe, m̄-chai tiān-sòaⁿ-phoe

                      sī siáⁿ-mih, chhéng-kàu kok-ūi sian-chìn .

                      Tân Hok-tong

-- 基本人權：使用母語活出台灣人ê尊嚴！ Lim Chun-iok http://sloan.fhl.net(台語點字) http://hakka.fhl.net http://taigi.fhl.net

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-- 基本人權：使用母語活出台灣人ê尊嚴！ Lim Chun-iok http://sloan.fhl.net(台語點字) http://hakka.fhl.net http://taigi.fhl.net