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From: keith cheng Cc: Kiatgak Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [TGB] Te 6 siaN si?
Uibun hiaN, Kiatgak hiaN, Kok-ui che-hiaN:

Chin to-sia Uibun e kai-soeh.

Uibun kong tioh Tai-gi lai-te siaN-tiau e sun-chai, si tui Bun-gian-bun tan-im-chiat e kou-su lai eng-hiong. Che Goa u tam-poh-a hoai-gi. Tiong-kok u bun m-chiah bo kau 4000 tang. Kiam kong Holo oe ti 4000 tang i-cheng bo siaN-tiau?

Koh-chai kong Tai-gi e pian-tiau hiah-nih u kui-chek, kap Hoa-gi a-si kheh-oe in e pian-tiau si siu-tioh au-piah im-chiat e siaN-tiau lai eng-hiong, oan-choan bo-kang. Chit khoan siaN-tiau tiong u cheng-bit e kui-lut e hian-hiong, ti lek-su gi-gian-hak lai-te beh an-choaN kai-soeh? Kam ia-si siu bun-gian-bun e eng-hiong?

Chit khoan choan-bin, kui-lut, e pian-tiau, ti se-kai siong e gi-gian si i5-it--e5. Che chin u ke-tat. Bi-kok Chhu-tiuN Kim Tai-iu put-si teh kong Tai-gi e pian-tiau si siong kai po-kui e jin-lui gi-gian e ui-san. M-chai TGB e hak-chia peng-iu u kang-khoan e kam-kak a-bo?

Si-chong

ChiuN Uibun wrote:

"ChiuN Uibun" [](<https://web.archive.org/web/20050519234623/mailto:>) hou taigu-bang e phoe:  
>   
> Kiatgak hiaN kap takke CTT,  
>   
> Ebin si goa tui "siaN-tiau" e khoaN-hoat, chhiaN chhamkho:  
>   
> Taigi e siaNtiau e san-seng u chin toa-pou-hun e in-sou si siu Hanji  
> bun-gian-bun e tan-im-chat kou-su hongsek sou eng-hiong. Ti chit e  
> eng-hiong chi-ha, na tan-tok thak mui chit e Hanji e si, siaNtiau ai liah  
> kah chin chun, anne hit e Hanji e isu chiah be chau-cheng khi. Mkoh, na thak  
> kui ku oe esi, mui chit eim-chat e siaNtiau kun-pun bo su-iau seng-chun,  
> lan lang kangkhoan etang thau-koe "siong-tui" e siaN-tiau koan-he lai  
> phan-toan kui ku oe e isu.  
>   
> Lan it-poaN kong Taigi u 8 siaN, ki-sit he chi-si chiau Tiongkok eunsu e  
> hun-lui-hoat lai ka Taigi e siaNtiau cho hun-lui nia. Hun-lui e phiau-chun  
> na bo kang, Taigi e siaNtiau to esai khah ke ma esai khah chio. Ti Oatlamoe  
> la
ite ma si anne, u lang kong Oatlamoe u 8 sia, ma u lang kong 6 siaN, 4  
> siaN hiatchia 2 siaN.  
>   
> Ki-sit, sou-u e gigian long esai kong si "siaNtiau" (giam-keh lai kong si  
> "intonation") e gigian. Chi-si, u-e gigian khah khoaN tiong "im-chat," u-e  
> khoaN tiong "gisu," u-e khoaN tiong "gi-ku(sentence)." KhoaN tiong  
> "im-chat" e, chhiuN kong Taigi, Hoa-gi, Oatlamgi, mui chit e im-chat e  
> hoat-im koan-ke ai chin se-gi, eng-ui sio-khoaNteng-taN to e cho-seng bo  
> kang e gi-i. Chit lui e gigian to si lan it-poaN sou kong e siaNtiau gigian  
> ( tone lang.). KhoaN tiong gi-su e, thong-siong chi-iau hun-piat im-chat e  
> koan-ke-im to esai hun-piat bo kang gi-i. KhoaN tiong gi-ku e, to  
> chhinchhiuN ebin chit e le:  
>   
> a) John is a girl (..../) --> piau-si hoai-gi, bo siong-sin  
> b) John is a girl (....\) --> kong chhut chit kiaN su-sit e taichi  
>   
> Teng-bin chit 2 ku e im-sou (phonemes) long kang khoan, mkoh in e "siaNtiau"  
> (intonation) bo kang s
ou-i isu oanchoan bo kang: (a) chit ku boe-a gi-im  
> (intonation) khan koan, piau-si hoai-gi, bo siong-sin e isu. (b) boe-a gi-im  
> kang-ke, piau-sikong chhut chit kiaN su-sit e taichi.  
>   
> Mui chit e gigian long e un-iong intonation lai cho gi-i e khu-piat. Na u  
> khu-piat gi-i e su-iau e si, intonation to e hoat bo kang thang lai hun-piat  
> gi-i. Na bo su-iau esi, hit koa intonation to e siau-sit (hiat-chia kong, to  
> e chin chu-iu, bosiu hanche).  
>   
> Goa kong che e isu to si, ki-sit lan bo su-iau seng khoaN tiong Taigi e  
> siaNtiau, bo su-iau kianchhi po-liu "siaNtiau." Chi-iau gisu e isu mai  
> chau-cheng khi, i e siaN-tiau e bo--khi--bo long bo iau-kin.  
>   
>   
> Isiong,  
>   
>   
> --Uibun  
>   
>   
>   
>   
> ----- Original Message -----  
> From: Kiatgak [](<https://web.archive.org/web/20050519234623/mailto:>)  
> To: Levin ; 
Tai-gi-bang [](<https://web.archive.org/web/20050519234623/mailto:>)  
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:17 AM  
> Subject: Re: [TGB] Te 6 siaN si?  
>   
>   
>  >  >     "Kiatgak" [](<https://web.archive.org/web/20050519234623/mailto:>) hou taigu-bang e phoe:   >     >    >     > ChiaN chheng-chho e pio. Lou-lat.   >     >    >     > Koh chheng-kau tak-e:   >     > 1. U sim-mih su si kong cho te 6 siaN?   >     > 2. Tai-lam/iu-se khiuN e te 6 siaN an-choaN kong(pun-tiau/pian-tiau)?   >     > 3. Lan ng-bang e-tang po-liu kok te e khiuN-khau, na hak-seng u bo kang   >     > khiuN-khau--e (chhin-chhhiuN PeN-na-a lai--e, ...) ti kau-hak teng-koan u   >     > sim-mih khah ho e hong-sek?   >     > 4. KhiuN-khau pian-hoa tak sou-chai chha chiah che, si-m-si e-tang   >     > cheng-beng chu-tiuN sia pian-tiau e he-thong kiaN be thong?   >     >    >     > Lou-lat.   >     >    >     > Kiatgak   >     > 

  
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